Hi, > Michael, looking at your steps, I am wondering if you did the following: > from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828070/ This is on an Ex2k3 Enterprise server so the 16GB limit does not apply. > c. Click the Limits tab, and then type 0 in the Keep deleted items for > days box ...Then you have to allow online maintenance to flush the > deleted items... I did this 2 days ago, so far no change in size. But I have not run a defrag again since then and can't do it till next weekend (eseutil /d). Mike