RES: Re: Hi

  • From: "Tiago de Aviz" <Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:43:48 -0300

Me too, I can't see it at all, unless you take what he said personally
because of things John may have said in the past.

I thing John gets bashed because he says things people don't wanna hear.

It's like my father says: "the problem is not the problem itself, the
problem is the one who talks about the problem"

-----Mensagem original-----
De: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 2 de maio de 2005 20:54
Para: [ExchangeList]
Assunto: [exchangelist] Re: Hi

 I for one fail to see the racist comment in John's email.


From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:41 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Hi

Wow, it's a good thing you don't work for Microsoft John otherwise you
could find yourself fired on the spot for making such racial comments
publicly. I agree with you over people should have a good solid
fundamental understanding and know-how of Windows Server operating
system before diving in to something like Exchange, however you should
NEVER associate it people from certain parts of the world when in fact
it involves everyone in the world as whole. 


You should be ashamed; your children should be ashamed that their father
is a racist. And I honestly don't know if I want eServices to be for me
now that I know they racial profiling people they are dealing with. 


I hope in the future in the further that instead of flat out blaming
people on their race or location for not having the experience that you
do, or your colleagues do that you either help people to bring them to
your level or kindly ignore their post in this message list and those
who "want to help" them do their job.





From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:57 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Hi

The problem is that Exchange is an enterprise class server that runs on
top of Windows Server software.


As such, BEFORE you can start playing with Exchange, you need to have a
good solid fundamental understanding and know-how of Windows Server
operating system, general networking, basics of how e-mail work, basic
understanding of DNS, basic understanding of the SMTP protocol and last
but not least, the will and desire to search and learn.


It is unfortunately prevalent that people from certain parts of the
world think they can just jump into Exchange without the above. Now,
whether the root of that problem is people trying to do things they have
no knowledge of or based cheapskate employers pressing employees to do
things they do not know how to do, or could it even be people
volunteering that they could do this but they really do not have the
proper knowledge, or is it a combination of all of those?


That is why I jump on people.


Now, back to the post in question, if you go and re-read it I do not
find a question in there.


John T

eServices For You


-----Original Message-----
From: soso bobo [mailto:soso20052006_4@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:28 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Hi 

dear All,


May i ask you only one question :-


why if some one from arabic country asking small questions about any
thing, i found that all of the people start fiteing with him as if he
did something wrong ?



this questions which we are see here its from someone who doesnot have
any background at all, and if i was in his Place and asking like this
questions , i will find alot of people try to kill me and BUT some
comments which is give no answer.


i had a problem with my Exchange server , and i was asking for any
recommendation, while i was discussing some advanced solutions, and i
found alot of people try to make fun on me.



can i know why this happen with us , arabic people, espicially from jhon


i need clear answer for that ? Please , either if the Arabic People have
some Problem with them or there is something else / ?


is any supervisor for this mailing list to answer me ? please

Danny <nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
        On 5/2/05, Skak wrote:
        > I have Exchange 2000 standard edition installed on win2000
Advance.We have
        > a small organization with 40 users.Our Exchange real ip
address is exposed
        > to Internet that means I can use my server through Remote
        > connection software from all over the world.My problem lies
here suppose a
        > hacker gets my real ip address how can he damage my server
using different
        > hacking tools and please do not forget to write the names of
tools which
        > can damage my server.
        > Please dont hesitate to ask question except real ip :)
        1) Get a firewall; yesterday. If you want a personal
        email me off-list.
        2) Read the documentation provided by the firewall vendor.
        3) Implement the firewall in the most secure configuration
        without limiting essential functionality.
        4) In future, do not email Microsoft Exchange mailing lists with
        questions about which hacking tools are recommended to damage

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