well, if the patches are critical as mentioned, then MUST be installed, I already had a serious problem in my exchange server last year when I left it with no update for only 2 months, which kept me fixing it for 8 continuous hours infront of the monitor !!!!!! Remenber the Shutdown problem and the opened ports in Windows NT based machines .? .. I agree with you that even If I use the manual to follow ALL the steps exactly, there will be also alot of problems,,, after all Microsoft products are our best and most common and cheap solution to implement. Sherif ________________________________ From: Mohammed Tantawi [mailto:mtantawi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tue 12/21/2004 5:03 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Outlook Clients with E2K login delay & freeze http://www.MSExchange.org/ My point of view is , as long as the server is working Perfect , no need to install other things , because its Microsoft , that is ________________________________ From: Sherif Shiha [mailto:sh_shiha@xxxxxxxx] Sent: 10 ?? ??????, 1425 02:56 ? To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Outlook Clients with E2K login delay & freeze http://www.MSExchange.org/ Dear All, Anyone seen this before ? Microsoft outlook clients when trying to connect to the Exchange corporate server it freezes for a while ( about 10 to 20 seconds ) then it says server is not available ( try again or work offline ) and when choosing try again it connects to the server , and when first pressing the send/receive button it freezes again for about the same period . and then it works all fine as long as the outlook is still running . Its the first time to see such problem on my server since 3 years ago.. Note: it happened after installing the last critical updates published by MS last week, and tried to uninstall them , but still same problem... Any Idea what causes this freezing and delay ?? Thanks in advance for your help... Sherif ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: mtantawi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: sh_shiha@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx