RE: One more try...

  • From: "Mulnick, Al" <Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:10:00 -0500

Update.  Here's another nice explanation.  It's the one I remembered reading
but couldn't remember where I'd seen it. 

http://blogs.msdn.com/exchange/archive/2004/03/24/95451.aspx 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al 
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:11 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

If it helps:
(from:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/Ex2k3DepGuide/9
13a25eb-ce2b-4743-8f4b-9b62f53c8af9.mspx) 

"GAL Synchronization creates a secondary X.500 proxy address for the user
who was moved so that old messages can be properly routed to the user's new
mailbox based on the legacyExchangeDN property.
 

For example, UserA sends mail to UserB, who is in the same organization.
Later, UserA is moved to a different organization. The mail originally sent
by UserA still specifies UserA's legacyExchangeDN property. GAL
Synchronization creates a contact for UserA in the old organization and
assigns an X.500 address with the old legacyExchangeDN property. This allows
UserB to reply to the old mail, which, in turn, is properly routed to the
TargetAddress property for UserA. If a mailbox is moved many times, the list
of secondary proxy addresses can potentially grow large."

And for perspective:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.exchange.admin/browse_t
hread/thread/42a8412381d60dd3/b9ee7b40a226cc87?q=x.500+admt+site:www.microso
ft.com&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dx.500+admt+site:www.microsoft.com%26hl%3Den%26l
r%3D%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#b9ee7b40a226cc87

"If you are going to go to a new AD and a New Exchange Organization then
there are some other things you have to consider and the action plan that I
outlined will not work for you.


1) You will need to setup SMTP name space sharing between your Exchange 5.5
and Exchange 2k organizations if they are both going to have the same SMTP
address.
2) You will need to setup an interorg ADC. This will only create contacts so
you will need to manage each side of the organization separately.
3) You will need to use exmerge to do the migrations of the mailbox contents

over to the new org. Yes this will result in NDRs to all replies unless you
manually add in an x.500 address for each of the users as you move them over

that matches their old x.500 address."

OR

More specific to your scenario (I know you didn't use the tools, but the
concepts were the same mostly).
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;818324
See the cause section.  

Hopefully that helps you to build the X.500 address space for each of these
users.  If you know their username, you should be able to build the rest and
put the addresses in there for each user object.

Just my $0.02 but it's been a long day...




 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 6:25 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Okay, Thank you all for your input.  I at least have a better understanding
of the issue at hand.  At this point I'm going to proceed with caution on
the users site.  I have already configured a second X.400 address for one
employee and plan to test after hours.

Thanks again,
Tim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:32 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

The old Organization is "COMPANY FOUNDATION" and the Site is "FIRST
ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP". 

The new Organization is "EXCHANGE" and the Site is "COMPANY".

The first is an X.500 address. The second is an X.400. Try applying an
appropriate X.400 and see what happens. I don't know how lucky you will be.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:26 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

I used OWA to a clients mbx and then pulled up and older email.  Just by
moving the cursor over the recipients name I got this back:
 

/O=COMPANY FOUNDATION/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Tim


The new X.400 looks like this:
C=US;a= ;p=COMPANY;o=EXCHANGE;s=Jordan;g=Tim;

Not sure how this would translate.  It looks like Exch 2000 used a OU=FIRST
ADMINISTRATIVE and Exch 2003 is using just EXCHANGE.

Advice?









-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:31 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

The X.500 is all you should need for this.  I was trying to find the blog
entries about X.500 which gave a good description.

You have to manually create the X.500 for each user.  You'd need a copy of
the GAL to know exactly, but if not too many you should be able to look at a
reply address and figure it out for the users. 
 E.g. x.500 addr.
        
/o=USA/OU=GOMEZ/cn=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=GOMEZ/CN=USERDIRNAME




Al 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:20 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Al, Michael, Danny,
I can see creating an X.400 - don't see how X.500 would be created for a
users account. I'm looking at a current user now and the X.400 that is
created currently is really basic.  I don't doubt that this is the problem.

Is there a way to reconstruct an X.400 address to match the former domains
X.400 address?  I can't easily reinstall the drives and fire up the old
config.  Can I pull the required data off an email and create an X.400
address.

Perhaps if I connect to a different client and see how their 2000 server
handles the X.400 entry and then try and duplicate - OR - I'm I playing with
fire here????

TJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:03 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Didn't I reply to this?

There are migration tools that would have fixed this for you. Nothing (that
I know of) for free. Maybe ADMT v2.

You could try adding an additional X.400 and X.500 address for each user
that matches the old one. I think that has a fairly high probability of
working.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:43 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] One more try...

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Hello everyone,

I'm reposting this plea for suggestions...

Summary:
        Installed a new Windows 2003 server w/ Exchange 2003 at a client
site.  They were running W2K w/Exch 2K.  I did not do an online migration.
I replaced the original drives in the server and did a clean installing
changing the company.org to company.local for internal dns.

Problem:  
        Emails that were sent within the organization based on the Global
Address book prior to the new server will not deliver when users try to
reply to them now.  Error is "message undeliverable..."

Solutions:
        I went in and updated the email field on contacts that were based on
the former Global Address Book.

But I don't have a clue as how to easy the users pain of having to always
double check the email address prior to sending...

 Did I over look a tool that would have allowed me to export the Global
Address book and then import it into the new Global Address book?  Would
this have allowed the replies to emails prior to the new server?

Thanks for your input,
TJ
        

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