was out for a few days. just wanted to thank you for this quick response (John and Mark both)...this is exactly what I was looking for...It feels like information on ms licensing is such a grey area at times - it was tough for me to make heads from tails of it using the ms site. Devin ________________________________ From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tue 11/30/2004 2:30 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: OT: 2003 Terminal Server - question pertaining to CALs http://www.MSExchange.org/ Correct, you did not have to activate the license, since with volume licensing there is no activation. You have to show proof of purchase by that date. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hippenstiel [mailto:M.Hippenstiel@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:18 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: OT: 2003 Terminal Server - question pertaining to CALs http://www.MSExchange.org/ That would be licenses activated before April, 24st. 2003, for automatic upgrading via their website (see http://licensecode.one.microsoft.com/transition/ ), while the transition plan talkes about owned licenses (not necessairly activated in my opinion). Mark ________________________________ From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Posted At: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:51 PM Posted To: msexchange.org Conversation: [exchangelist] RE: OT: 2003 Terminal Server - question pertaining to CALs Subject: [exchangelist] RE: OT: 2003 Terminal Server - question pertaining to CALs http://www.MSExchange.org/ Yes, that is correct. Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server licenses are separate from 2000 CALs. Additionally, Windows XP Professional and Windows 2000 Professional do not need a license to connect to a Windows 2000 Terminal server in Application mode, the license is inherent. But in Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server mode, only Windows XP Professional licenses purchased before April 24, 2003 I believe are eligible for a free license to Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server mode. Otherwise, a separate Windows Server 2003 Terminal Services CAL must be obtained. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Devin McBride [mailto:devin@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:36 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] OT: 2003 Terminal Server - question pertaining to CALs http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hi all...I realize this is not exchange specific...I'm hoping someone can give me a hand on this though... This office is fairly small....30 or so users Primary server is our DC - taking care of DNS/DHCP/WINS/File storage et c We have a 2003 Member server running terminal services.... Mind you I came into this office after the fact of them installing all of this stuff... I got a report this morning that their temporary terminal service license is almost expired and proceeded to check the ts licensing on the 2003 server The Windows 2000 server is running the terminal server licensing it appears and I see an 5 user open license for "Windows 2000 Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (per-device)" Now I'm assuming this here is the issue since the 2000 server has 2000 CALs installed and not 2003. Can someone please confirm the validity in this? Or are all 2000/2003 ts CALs the same? 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