RE: New Server for Exchange 2003 & ISA
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:32:28 -0500
Hi Bill,
I agree. You can get very nice performance from ISA firewalls with
modest whitebox hardware. A PIII-800MHz+ with 1 GB+ of RAM, with a 20GB
UDMA-100 IDE disk will serve your office very well for inbound and
outbound access control, sophisticated remote access solutions and VPN.
HTH,
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Witten [mailto:billw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:21 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Server for Exchange 2003 & ISA
http://www.MSExchange.org/
I would break this out into more boxes with less power and have separate
boxes for each of these functions. Both of the systems are overkill for
100-150 users. You can probably get some smaller, server-class systems
that will be reduced cost and allow more boxes. If there are only two
servers in the environment and the one with Exchange is not going to be
a GC, are there other servers that will hold this role? You should
definitely have to GCs.
I would also not recommend putting a DC on a server that is Internet
facing. I am assuming that the ISA box will be Internet
facing--correct?
--billw
-----Original Message-----
From: Koie Smith [mailto:ksmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:12 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Server for Exchange 2003 & ISA
http://www.MSExchange.org/
Ok here is the scenario, we are moving a law firm from novell/groupwise
to 2003 servers with exchange and ISA. Normally we sell Small Business
Server to our clients, but they have more than 75 users at this firm,
which eliminates SBS2003. We quoted 2 Dell Poweredge Server with the
following specs.
PowerEdge 2600, 2.4GHz (single process), Dual capable, 2GB Ram, 3 - 73GB
SCSI HD's in Raid 5, Windows 2003 Standard Edition. This server will
serve as the main server to provide authentication and access to their
file storage.
PowerEdge 4600, 2.6GHZ (dual processor), 4GB Ram, 3 - 143GB SCSI HD's in
Raid 5, Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition. This server will run Exchange
Server Enterprise Edition and ISA 2000 with softare assurance for the
upgrade to 2003 when it comes out.
Now I did not come up with this purposal, I have my different opinions
about it, I'm just curious to find out what would be recommened by
others that have already been down this road. Remember we are used to
doing SBS2000 which runs everything one a single server, that is why we
were planning on doing ISA/Exchange together.
Thanks,
Koie Smith
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Witten [mailto:billw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:57 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Server for Exchange 2003 & ISA
http://www.MSExchange.org/
Another thing to remember is that if you put Exchange on a DC/GC DSACESS
will not fail over to use any other DC/GC--even if its own AD services
fail.
It would also be useful to know the expected number of users accessing
this box and the specific role it will play. I concur with John that
Exchange should be on its own box, if possible. Combining Exchange with
any other application takes you into the realm of "untested" (meaning
the Exchange Product Group doesn't test the scenario). Untested does
not mean unsupported, but it does mean more possible pitfalls than most
customers wish to experience.
--billw
-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:49 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Server for Exchange 2003 & ISA
http://www.MSExchange.org/
First question: Why do you want to willing put other services on ISA
server, which is a firewall? You should only put what you have to on
there for security and performance.
Second question: Are you aware the Exchange needs resources? Therefore,
unless you have too, it should be on its on box.
Third question: An AD server, even if not using extra roles, does do a
far amount of work. Why do you want this server to be a domain
controller?
Otherwise:
How much mail traffic?
How much storage space do you need for mail?
John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Koie Smith [mailto:ksmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:04 AM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] New Server for Exchange 2003 & ISA
>
> http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
> I am just curious what people recommend in terms of specs for a server
running
> Exchange 2003 and ISA 2000. The server will be an AD server but no
> roles
will be
> passed to it from the existing server. (as far as operations masters,
global catalog,
> etc.) There will be around 100 minimum and probably never more than
> 150
user
> accounts (all with email).
>
> Thanks,
> Koie Smith
>
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