The only obvious difference I can see in the Exch tasks dialog box is the ability to remove Exch Attributes in the ADUC. :) -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:45 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Moving mailboxes from 2003 Enterprise to 2003 Standard - possible? http://www.MSExchange.org/ In re: (1) -- the wizard API isn't documented, I fear, but I don't see the difference you are describing on either my test or my live systems. I don't question that it exists on yours. Sounds like a bug in ADU&C. :-) -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Depp [mailto:dennis.depp@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:01 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Moving mailboxes from 2003 Enterprise to 2003 Standard - possible? http://www.MSExchange.org/ I don't believe ADU&C and ESM use the exact same code for two reasons: 1) When you move mailboxes from ADU&C and ESM, the move mailbox wizzard gives a slightly diffferent interface for each tool. With ADU&C, the number of mailboxes you see on the pull down list is only about half the available mail databases when run with a full complement of Storage Groups and databases. I.e. 19 mail databases. With ESM, you see all the available databases. 2) When I call Microsoft about a problem I had with moving mailboxes, they asked which method I used. When I questioned them about being the same the tech replied yes they are basically the same. These two incidents lead me to believe there are some differeneces in the move mailbox function between the two tools. I agree with your other points. Dennis On 4/24/05, Michael B. Smith <michael@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > You are wrong about point #1: ESM DOES allow you to move mailboxes. > You obviously haven't even tried. Go ahead, expand your mind, and > exercise your mouse finger a little bit. > > As far as point #2 is concerned: tell me where it isn't recommended. > Show me documentation, a URL, whatever. This was a new feature with > the Exchange 2003 management tools, and it allows you to only have a > single management console open. > > As far as point #3 is concerned: you are again wrong. Since it uses > exactly the same code as ADU&C, I don't know why you think it would > generate errors that ADU&C doesn't. > > As far as point #4 is concerned: most examples use ADU&C, since they > haven't been rewritten since Exchange 2000. However, I would again > challenge you to produce documentation that says "move mailbox in > ADU&C is recommended over move mailbox in ESM". > > As far as point #5 is concerned: they work exactly the same - the > Exchange Tasks wizard. I have no idea why you think that ADU&C is > easier than ESM, since they are the same. > > Now, if these are YOUR recommendations, that's fine. You should say so. > If you are asserting they are Microsoft's, then you should provide > documentation to back it up. > > -----Original Message----- > From: manjunath bn [mailto:manjunatha.bn@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:01 PM > To: [ExchangeList] > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Moving mailboxes from 2003 Enterprise to > 2003 Standard - possible? > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > ESM does not allow you to move mail boxes from one server to another. > > it is not recommended also. you will find plenty og error messages if > you try to do it that method. > > do it from { AD U & C ) recommended. and most easiest method > > I don't understand what is the problem in doing so... > > manjuath > > On 4/23/05, Michael B. Smith <michael@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > If it is in the same forest, it will automagically be in the same > > organization. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Danny [mailto:nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:07 AM > > To: [ExchangeList] > > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Moving mailboxes from 2003 Enterprise to > > 2003 Standard - possible? > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > On 4/23/05, Michael B. Smith <michael@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > > > You most certainly can do a standard "Move Mailbox" from the > > > Exchange Server 2003 ESM, if it's in the same organization. > > > > When I install Exchange on the Standard Edition server, I will have > > the option to specify that it be a part of the same organization? > > > > > ESM (or ADU&C) doesn't really care what edition Exchange is > involved. > > > > Great. > > > > Thank you! > > > > ...D > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp > Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading > Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows > Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network > Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax > Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List > as: dennis.depp@xxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: michael@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: adavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx