Answering out of turn, my mom said to be the best, so I used GroupWise. She also said don't make a spectacle of yourself so I'm guessing the marketing folks at novell must have heard the same thing. Conversely, the marketing guys at Microsoft were bullies and began the process of world domination. That's where the "If you don't have anything nice" to say speech comes in:-) Dreaming of a perfect world here. Groupwise backend, Fully functioning outlook front end, Microsoft servers using Novell NDS instead of hack thing they call AD. Mike _____ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Taylor, George BTW, didn't your Mom ever tell you to never put Exchange on a DC? ;-) George Taylor Systems Programmer Regional Health Inc. sender only" message and destroy all electronic or paper copies of the communication, including any attachments.