Just curious, does the MCSE require any training on Microsoft's core collaboration suite, i.e.. Exchange? George Taylor Systems Programmer Regional Health Inc. _____ From: Ralph Haney [mailto:rhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:27 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Database Size question Sensitivity: Private http://www.MSExchange.org/ Great, thanks for the (simplified) explanation. I'm pleading my case for EX training but hitting a budgetary wall at present. Prior to the SP2 install I had to do a couple of off-line defrags before hitting that notorious Standard Version DB limit -- but I assumed this was normal behavior. (George, I embed the link code instead of the image so the MS logo doesn't come across as an attachment on some clients. Plus, MS has very specific rules regarding usage etc. No, I don't "need" to have it in there but I worked my *ss off for that and have no reservations using it.) ~ Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:52 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Database Size question Sensitivity: Private http://www.MSExchange.org/ Whitespace/free space/unused database space - it's all the same. The consolidation and reporting of same is a part of normal DB maintenance, which comprises around a dozen steps. Whitespace fluctuates as messages arrive and are deleted and SIS is broken and deleted item retention takes places and free-space consolidation works better because of any of the prior steps - etc. etc. etc. When available whitespace hits zero - then the database expands. As long as whitespace is available, the database doesn't expand. (Note that the above is a gross oversimplification of the algorithms involved, but is, in general, accurate.) _____ From: Ralph Haney [mailto:rhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:27 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Database Size question Sensitivity: Private http://www.MSExchange.org/ <RANT BLOCK ON> Not having formal Exchange (or even messaging training) and wearing so many IT/operations hats I often don't have time to do extensive research, may I ask a question on free space? Based on your suggestion, I took a look out of curiosity and my application logs for ID 1221 seem to fluctuate with freespace values from about a half-gig to only 3-4 MB after an online defrag completes. 1) I assume this is the normal DB maintenance occurring and is nothing to be concerned about...? 2) This is the term "whitespace" that you're referring to? TIA <RANT BLOCK OFF> Ralph Haney MCSE IT / Telecom Manager Avalon Natural Products www.avalonnaturalproducts.com ***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the Sender immediately by a "reply to sender only" message and destroy all electronic or paper copies of the communication, including any attachments.