[ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

  • From: Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:05:26 -0800 (PST)

The thing is we are building a virtual learning complex, which is predominantly webbased with an sql backend. The plan is to have students and teacher store material online and access it from anywhare. So the potential for rapid storage growth exist. There is also going to be provision to use our email server to relay messages within the complex, but @ a later date.
 
The potential user base could easily grow from 15/20 now to about 7000. Messaging might take a little longer, but the sql bit would be within weeks


From: "Kamuni, Prabhakar" <Prabhakar.Kamuni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:46:10 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

You understood my sentence wrongly

 

I am not telling that we can’t install Exchange in Vmware, Please read my first reply.

 

I am just talking about PSS Support prospective. Specially about Exchange servers clusters when you use MSCS

 

Did you implement any MSCS clusters – Exchange in Vmware Environment? Its not that you can’t do, just I mean its not recommended choice.

 

Might be I am wrong , but when I called Microsoft they told me its not supported by PSS when I implement clusters in Vmware Environment.

 

Patrick,

 

Please can you tell about scenario, the two servers which you are planning is clusters or not and let me know the user base? Is it 1000’s of users or hundreds?

 

Cheers!!!
Prabhu

 


From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:03 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

 

You are incorrect.

 

Exchange is supported on VMware. And Exchange is supported in Hyper-V.

 

Your sources and understanding are out of date.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 

From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kamuni, Prabhakar
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:17 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

 

As per my understanding MS will not support Exchange on Vmware/ESX which ever version J

 

But I think when MS release HYPER-V they will support Exchange on virtualization.

 

Cheers!!!

Prabhu

 

  Thanks and Regards

PRABHAKAR KAMUNI |  ECG- De Beers Project | Tech Lead

Unisys Global Services India   |  135/1 Residency Road  |  Bangalore |  Business Phone +91 4159 4828|Net 759 4828

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From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Wall
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:33 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

 

Just an FYI  - Microsoft does support Exchange 2007 virtualization on all server roles except for the Unified Communications role.

 

See the following links for exact information:

 

http://blogs.technet.com/ucedsg/archive/2008/11/12/exchange-server-2007-sp1-now-supported-on-vmware.aspx

 

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc794548.aspx

 

From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kamuni, Prabhakar
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:41 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

 

Patrick,

 

There is no direct answer with me but let me tell you my view

 

Are you going with MSCS?

 

How many users? You have? Based on this answer I can explain you.

 

If it is a small amount of users and you are not having MSCS, without thinking any you can go-ahead and install your exchange in Vmware.

 

If you have 1000’s of users and if you’re planning to go with MSCS personally I suggest you to go with Physical boxes.

 

 

Even if you have Exchange 2007 for - HUB, CAS, UM, Edge you can go with VM servers, but for mailbox cluster nodes in Exchange 2007 also I suggest to go with Physical servers.

 

 

 

  Thanks and Regards

PRABHAKAR KAMUNI |  ECG- De Beers Project | Tech Lead

Unisys Global Services India   |  135/1 Residency Road  |  Bangalore |  Business Phone +91 4159 4828|Net 759 4828

Mobile: 0091-9945333367

 


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From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:00 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

 

Thanks. So it would be recommended to install both on physical boxes? I have seen the document on MS not supporting VMware

 


From: " Kamuni, Prabhakar " <Prabhakar.Kamuni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:15:24 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Exchange and virtualization

Patrick,

 

There is no harm running Exchange in ESX/Vmware environment

 

Only thing since it is high I/O operations application Microsoft will not suggest to Install SQl/Exchange in Vmware Environment.

 

Note: If you have any problem with Exchange, Microsoft PSS will not support you J

 

 

 

  Thanks and Regards

PRABHAKAR KAMUNI |  ECG- De Beers Project | Tech Lead

Unisys Global Services India   |  135/1 Residency Road  |  Bangalore |  Business Phone +91 4159 4828|Net 759 4828

Mobile: 0091-9945333367

 


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From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:12 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Exchange and virtualization

 

Hi Guys,

 

We have an exchange 2003 server in a VMware environment. I am sure I have read somewhere that it is not adviceable to run either Exchange or Sql on VM's. Anyone got any documentaion / whitepaper to back that up, or have I got it wrong.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Patrick

 

 


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