RE: Exchange Server Redundancy

  • From: "Zoran Marjanovic" <zmarjanovic@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:21:17 +0100

Hi all,

 

Just to add a few words regarding CA BrightStore High Availability v9. I tested 
it on 2 Exchanges 2k (SP3) + AV client and AV filter. The net had 1 separate 
w2k (SP4) as DC and one client (W2k Pro + SP4, Outlook XP and OWA-IE6). I 
didn't use direct connection (they recommend Null Modem Cable). It was a bit 
tricky to configure Exchanges (2 desktops with the same hardware), it assumes 
you are starting with the new exchange environment and there is no other 
software on servers, and CA never replied to my question regarding Exchange 
configuration. Finally I configured exchanges. I installed one exchange, 50 
users, 2 storage groups and 4 stores on a separate partition, made some 
traffic-300 MB in all stores, configured the second exchange and restored IS 
backup on it, started all services and mounted the stores, tested it from the 
client-Outlook+OWA, installed CA software on both, had to change permissions on 
EMS-according to the explanations logged by BS HA after the protection task 
failed, synchronized them, started replication and everything was ok. Then I 
unplugged the first exchange (I had a hardware problem when exchange became 
unavailable, no ping reply, even it was up and running?) and the fail-over 
started. The second exchange stood in for the first one, the script started all 
services successfully, the computer name and IP address were replaced 
(spoofing), but it could not have mounted the stores (I repeated this 3 times, 
every time starting from scratch). Just to mention, after I installed the 
second exchange and tested it, I didn't make any additional traffic (which was 
a kind of help for CA) that means there was no data for replicating after the 
synchronization was done. I would ask CA guys what now, but as they didn't 
answer the first time I believe they won't do it the second time. In the 
documentation they mention the Open File Replication feature, but no details.   

 

Tiago,

 

Have you experienced this problem and have you tested the software and how? As 
you cannot start replication before you change permissions (it is not mentioned 
in CA documentation), I tried it over ADSI edit, without propagation, and I 
started the task (replication) successfully. Because the failover didn't work I 
did it again over ESM, adding Security tab and propagating the changes to the 
lower levels, but again, everything was fine, except the stores could not have 
been mounted. I tried to figure out what is going on troubleshooting the errors 
from app log, but couldn't have solved it.

 

Any idea? 

 

Zoran    

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tiago de Aviz [mailto:Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:17 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy

 

http://www.MSExchange.org/

It is much simpler because it can be implemented on a single day, it replicates 
data on the bit level, it's a cheap software, and if you want, you can user a 
slower machine or any other machine for redundancy.

 

No, while Brightstor is replicating, it doesn't know if the file is a database 
or a Star Wars movie. It's all the same for him.

 

Tiago de Aviz

SoftSell

(41) 340-2363

www.softsell.com.br <http://www.softsell.com.br/> 

 

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From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: terça-feira, 9 de março de 2004 10:51
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy

 

http://www.MSExchange.org/


 

So, really, it's not much different than the MCS solution from Microsoft except 
that a) it's replicating data on the bit level? and b) it's software vs. 
hardware solution?  I'm missing where it saves the time?  It has to ensure that 
the database is consistent right?  Or does it?

 

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From: Tiago de Aviz [mailto:Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:06 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Sure, i'm using it right now. I also have many customers using it for 
replication of SQL Server databases, Oracle databases, IIS web servers, file 
servers... It's an outstanding product. It's based on the ARCserve technology, 
but it basically does replication tasks from one server to the another in 
real-time, and runs scripts that are built-in in the application in the case of 
a failure.

 

It requires a special communication link between the two server (get yourself 
two nics and a crossover cable), and it detects failures when the service on 
the two machines can't talk to each other anymore. When it detects this 
failure, it starts pinging addresses that you specify to ensure it is online, 
or it can verify if the primary server is still alive via the COM port. 

 

Primary server dead? It starts the Brightstor service, and the secondary server 
starts answering as the primary, and noone notices what happened.

 

Well, it can scale to as much users as you want, it basically depends on your 
hardware. All it does is database replication, Al. It doesn't know how many 
users you have when it's replicating. It's just replicating the .edb file and 
that's it. When the primary server crashes, it'll bring the exchange server up. 
We always recommend having the same hardware on the primary and secondary 
servers, to simplify things. But yes, you can have totally different machines 
for this service.

 

Tiago de Aviz

SoftSell

(41) 340-2363

www.softsell.com.br <http://www.softsell.com.br/> 

 

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From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: segunda-feira, 8 de março de 2004 19:53
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy

 

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Tiago, is that something that you use and have seen?  How many users does that 
scale to?  

 

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