Hi all, Just to add a few words regarding CA BrightStore High Availability v9. I tested it on 2 Exchanges 2k (SP3) + AV client and AV filter. The net had 1 separate w2k (SP4) as DC and one client (W2k Pro + SP4, Outlook XP and OWA-IE6). I didn't use direct connection (they recommend Null Modem Cable). It was a bit tricky to configure Exchanges (2 desktops with the same hardware), it assumes you are starting with the new exchange environment and there is no other software on servers, and CA never replied to my question regarding Exchange configuration. Finally I configured exchanges. I installed one exchange, 50 users, 2 storage groups and 4 stores on a separate partition, made some traffic-300 MB in all stores, configured the second exchange and restored IS backup on it, started all services and mounted the stores, tested it from the client-Outlook+OWA, installed CA software on both, had to change permissions on EMS-according to the explanations logged by BS HA after the protection task failed, synchronized them, started replication and everything was ok. Then I unplugged the first exchange (I had a hardware problem when exchange became unavailable, no ping reply, even it was up and running?) and the fail-over started. The second exchange stood in for the first one, the script started all services successfully, the computer name and IP address were replaced (spoofing), but it could not have mounted the stores (I repeated this 3 times, every time starting from scratch). Just to mention, after I installed the second exchange and tested it, I didn't make any additional traffic (which was a kind of help for CA) that means there was no data for replicating after the synchronization was done. I would ask CA guys what now, but as they didn't answer the first time I believe they won't do it the second time. In the documentation they mention the Open File Replication feature, but no details. Tiago, Have you experienced this problem and have you tested the software and how? As you cannot start replication before you change permissions (it is not mentioned in CA documentation), I tried it over ADSI edit, without propagation, and I started the task (replication) successfully. Because the failover didn't work I did it again over ESM, adding Security tab and propagating the changes to the lower levels, but again, everything was fine, except the stores could not have been mounted. I tried to figure out what is going on troubleshooting the errors from app log, but couldn't have solved it. Any idea? Zoran -----Original Message----- From: Tiago de Aviz [mailto:Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:17 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy http://www.MSExchange.org/ It is much simpler because it can be implemented on a single day, it replicates data on the bit level, it's a cheap software, and if you want, you can user a slower machine or any other machine for redundancy. No, while Brightstor is replicating, it doesn't know if the file is a database or a Star Wars movie. It's all the same for him. Tiago de Aviz SoftSell (41) 340-2363 www.softsell.com.br <http://www.softsell.com.br/> Esta mensagem, incluindo seus anexos, tem caráter confidencial e seu conteúdo é restrito ao destinatário da mensagem. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, queira por favor retorná-la ao destinatário e apagá-la de seus arquivos. Qualquer uso não autorizado, replicação ou disseminação desta mensagem ou parte dela é expressamente proibido. A SoftSell não é responsável pelo conteúdo ou a veracidade desta informação. _____ From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: terça-feira, 9 de março de 2004 10:51 To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy http://www.MSExchange.org/ So, really, it's not much different than the MCS solution from Microsoft except that a) it's replicating data on the bit level? and b) it's software vs. hardware solution? I'm missing where it saves the time? It has to ensure that the database is consistent right? Or does it? _____ From: Tiago de Aviz [mailto:Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:06 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy http://www.MSExchange.org/ Sure, i'm using it right now. I also have many customers using it for replication of SQL Server databases, Oracle databases, IIS web servers, file servers... It's an outstanding product. It's based on the ARCserve technology, but it basically does replication tasks from one server to the another in real-time, and runs scripts that are built-in in the application in the case of a failure. It requires a special communication link between the two server (get yourself two nics and a crossover cable), and it detects failures when the service on the two machines can't talk to each other anymore. When it detects this failure, it starts pinging addresses that you specify to ensure it is online, or it can verify if the primary server is still alive via the COM port. Primary server dead? It starts the Brightstor service, and the secondary server starts answering as the primary, and noone notices what happened. Well, it can scale to as much users as you want, it basically depends on your hardware. All it does is database replication, Al. It doesn't know how many users you have when it's replicating. It's just replicating the .edb file and that's it. When the primary server crashes, it'll bring the exchange server up. We always recommend having the same hardware on the primary and secondary servers, to simplify things. But yes, you can have totally different machines for this service. Tiago de Aviz SoftSell (41) 340-2363 www.softsell.com.br <http://www.softsell.com.br/> Esta mensagem, incluindo seus anexos, tem caráter confidencial e seu conteúdo é restrito ao destinatário da mensagem. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, queira por favor retorná-la ao destinatário e apagá-la de seus arquivos. Qualquer uso não autorizado, replicação ou disseminação desta mensagem ou parte dela é expressamente proibido. A SoftSell não é responsável pelo conteúdo ou a veracidade desta informação. _____ From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: segunda-feira, 8 de março de 2004 19:53 To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Server Redundancy http://www.MSExchange.org/ Tiago, is that something that you use and have seen? 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