Hi andrew If you look at the thread it wasn't me with the problem - ours are backing up fine (tw) ! Regards Brian Parker Senior Computing Officer -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:28 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Ofline Defrag http://www.MSExchange.org/ Brian, You go to www.microsoft.com/exchange and download the disaster recovery guide and read all 137 pages. In it, it clearly explains how to properly backup your Exchange server. The log files are transition files, if you nuke them you also risk you're the chance you will be able to restore your Exchange service if it tanks. The transition logs reset once you do a complete and proper Exchange backup. Regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Brian Parker [mailto:bparker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:01 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Ofline Defrag http://www.MSExchange.org/ Just read this again - you say you have backed up the databases - how ? Have you backed them up as flat files or as databases. The only way you should be thinking of getting rid of the logs is through a full backup at Exchange database level. It was good that you wrote to this list before you did what you were going to do, your next step is to go onto the MS website and read about backing up and restoring exchange - it is vital you know what you are doing with this. Regards Brian Parker -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:20 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange Ofline Defrag http://www.MSExchange.org/ Short answer is NO! The log files only get cleaned up once you backup Exchange. So back it up if you have not done it in a long time because you never know when something might tank and you will be up the creek without a paddle because to forgot to backup Exchange. Regards, Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Erhard Haniffa [mailto:erhard@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:38 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Exchange Ofline Defrag http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hello all, Just a quick question about offline defrag of and exchange 2000 database. I've backed up the database and about to start. i dont' have circular loggin g turned on so there are all these log files in the MDBdata folder with the PRIV1.edb and PUB1.edb files. After running the defrag can I delete the log files? What I've actually done is, I've made a copy of the mdb data folder onto another drive and I'm gong to defrag the copy of the database not the one in the priginal mdbdata folder. 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