I no longer have a 5.5 at my disposal, so I can't check, but as far as I remember there's not much you can do about it apart from implementing some sort of 'blacklist' system, which will deny known spam relays emailing you. Because the cause of so many NDR's is usually that the original message that triggers the NDR is spam - that's why there's no recipient at your end - implementing such a system might be a good idea. Take a look at http://combat.uxn.com/ for some more info on spam related issues. I wouldn't worry too much about the load though. The reason the queue builds up is that the NDR's can't be delivered (the original senders address is fake), your server will keep them in the queue and retry until the message expires. It's usually not a huge load on the server. Of course, if you're worried about it, run some performance counters on the server for a while and see if it's actually bogged down. HTH, Örjan -----Original Message----- From: Juan Ibarra [mailto:jibarra@xxxxxxxxxxx] Posted At: den 28 januari 2003 22:23 Posted To: exchange Conversation: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 5.5 Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 5.5 http://www.MSExchange.org/ That's exactly what I'm seeing. Is there anything I can do about it? This adds load to my server, doesn't it? If I let them build over time I will have hundreds of them just sitting there. Thanks, Juan -----Original Message----- From: exchange [mailto:exchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:29 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 5.5 http://www.MSExchange.org/ Is the originator '<>'? If so, it's your server sending out NDR's to originators og messages that hasn't been delivered to anyone on your server. For instance, if I send a message to dude@xxxxxxxxxx and there is no 'dude' at that domain, '<>' will send a NDR back to me informing me that it couldn't be delivered. This is commonly misinterpreted as spam. HTH, Örjan -----Original Message----- From: Juan Ibarra [mailto:jibarra@xxxxxxxxxxx] Posted At: den 28 januari 2003 05:03 Posted To: exchange Conversation: [exchangelist] Exchange 5.5 Subject: [exchangelist] Exchange 5.5 http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hi all, I have a spamming problem. I have tried to understand the reason why I am getting all this spam in my outgoing queue. My server is internal and port 25 is close on my FW. I have a send mail server on the outside that forwards all email to my exchange server on the inside. The send mail server is not an open relay, neither is my exchange box. I can't even ping it from the outside. Yet on a daily basis I get a lot of emails without originator on my ques. I have nothing check on my routing restrictions tab, but I figured I don't need to because it is in the inside. Hope one of you has an answer for me. Thanks, Juan ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSExchange.org Discussion List as: exchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSExchange.org Discussion List as: jibarra@xxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp Exchange FAQ: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ ISA Server Resource Site: http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSExchange.org Discussion List as: exchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')