People are not understanding the point. He was not even asking an Exchange question. He did not take the time to first understand how exactly e-mail in general works including the needed basic steps, in this case how to set up DNS records that are required by the Internet for e-mail delivery and receipt to work. An analogy: What he is asking is not how to fix the engine or make it better which is what the list is for, he is stating some one told him he has to put gas in the car first and he wants to know how. If you do not know how to put gas in the car or why, you should not be touching the engine. John T eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Dee Arnold [mailto:Deea@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:02 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 2003 http://www.MSExchange.org/ Wasn't going to put in my 2 cents, but, I must say that I agree with George. I once posted a question, was totally belittled and humiliated by someone, but I just blew it off. I don't take what you guys state personally, I just realize you must have the ultimate job, with time to spare to only work on one thing...Exchange. There are a lot of us out here that take care of much more things, such as the phone switch, voicemail, printers, copiers, printing equipment, designer software, servers, WSUS, websites, help desk, and yes, Exchange, along with everything in the building that has a chip in it. I am an island, and if you can't throw me an oar once in a while, well, as our Mothers always said "If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all." Just my opinion. Can't we all "just get along" and help people out? Isn't that why we are all here? _____ From: Taylor, George [mailto:gtaylor@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:34 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 2003 http://www.MSExchange.org/ So instead of helping the guy out you belittle him...you must be in management. George Taylor Systems Programmer Regional Health Inc. _____ From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:27 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 2003 http://www.MSExchange.org/ Being a newbie to Exchange is one thing. That is not the subject of the Rant, if you would reread it. No one should be touching any e-mail server without understanding the basics of how e-mail and SMTP work first. John T eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Monroe [mailto:bmonroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:26 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: bmonroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email found in subject - RE: Exchange 2003 http://www.MSExchange.org/ I hate to say this; I think there was a time that everyone that subscribes to this list was a newbie at one time or another. I obviously missed the level of expertise requirement when I signed up for this list. _____ From: Spam Sent: Thu 1/5/2006 12:24 PM To: Bruce Monroe Subject: FW: bmonroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email found in subject - [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 2003 _____ From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thu 1/5/2006 11:26 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: bmonroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email found in subject - [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 2003 http://www.MSExchange.org/ Sorry people, rant time. (You had to see this coming.) <RANT ON> Another flippen "hey I can install Exchange and we have an e-mail server going" wantobe who has not taken the neccasary time to learn the basics and fundamentals about e-mail and all that is needed. Step away from the server and call a professional please! <RANT OFF> John T eServices For You ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp ------------------------------------------------------ Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: http://www.techgenix.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSExchange.org Discussion List as: johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Report abuse to info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx