RE: Exchange 2000
- From: "Mark Fugatt" <mark@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:10:25 -0400
It won't last, were all one big happy family and just need to vent every now
and then, I for one respect everyone on this list even though I have only
met a few of you in person.
I have to agree with you the cert.exam.mcse group is out of control and
Microsoft would be well advised to shut it down, but I think they are
worried that the members of the MCNGP team will just start posting in the
other groups, the Microsoft.public.exchange2000 groups are much better than
most of the other Microsoft public groups.
Mark Fugatt
MCT, MCSE, Microsoft Exchange MVP
Pentech Office Solutions Inc
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-----Original Message-----
From: David V. Dellanno [mailto:ddellanno@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:05 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
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Hi Stephen,
I completely understand where both Charles and yourself are
coming from BUT don't forget there are many, many engineers out here
that are NOT as fortunate like others who have the exposure to
experience of a large enterprise structure, unlimited hardware and
software resources and probably and incredible mentoring relationship
environment they were in. There are others, unfortunately, that do not
have this and are trying their best in their own way to be brave enough
to ask "A" question or to find those resources that they were not aware
of, as obviously it shows in their question. I agree that your answer
had no malice or negative intent but what I think Mark is steer towards
is to use this forum as a center for "any question" no matter how small
or big it is. If you can answer it, great. If not, no worries,
someone might pick it up, I don't think there is a time limit to answer
all or the questions.
I bet everyone here in this forum has some kind of hard story
but that should not stop us to provide help to other engineers. This is
a good thing, hopefully the engineer that you help will help another
engineer with the same question and so on and so on and so on. I
honestly like the way both MSExchange.org and ISAServer.org have been
answering questions, purely professionally. Two thumbs up from here!
'golf clap' :-) Actually, this is the first time, I've seen a flame
from these site...is just one....this one. I hope it will not last or
continue but if you really would like a flame newsgroup and my personal
opinion the worst newsgroup I have ever seen so far for Microsoft is
this one, talk about was of threads:
Newsgroup Server
News.microsoft.com
Newsgroup Name
Microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
The group is controlled by these guys
http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
Stephen, I hope this is not the direction you would like this
forum to be.
Ok, that my two dimes and nickels worth,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hartley [mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:42 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 2000
http://www.MSExchange.org/
The moron who answered at least had the common courtesy to pick up a
manual & read some white papers & sought some peer support (if you call
Microsoft Training peer support) before even considering asking a
question on here. Then I was at least able to formulate an intelligent
question! I also do not have a problem with Mark Fuggat advertising his
training courses on here. After all, part of the learning process with
exchange (other than this forum) is classroom training & installing from
scratch. Maybe if Dustin took one of these courses, he would not need to
ask such a question? Also Mr Moffat, where do you get "flaming" from my
post? I certainly did not use any derogatory comments, perhaps a little
dry humour?
Stephen Hartley
NetAbility
Brisbane, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 2:16 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exchange 2000
http://www.MSExchange.org/
Well then, the moron who answered would have been better directing his
wording to solicit some information on what was required from the guy,
rather than flaming him.
Haven't you ever been stuck while learning something as involved as
Exchange.
Steve
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