Re: ESEUTIL

  • From: "Mark Arnold" <Mark.Arnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:24:50 +0100

2$...
Like Neil says, why bother doing an offline defrag if you clear out
500MB a week? 7 days later you're going to clear out another 500MB and I
bet the information store hasn't grown noticeably in months.
If you're worried about 500MB and need to recover the drive space then I
assure you you're in a lot more trouble than just having a bit of white
space in the store.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ohl, Julie [mailto:J.OHL@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 09 July 2003 20:52
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: ESEUTIL

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I also defrag the database on a regular basis, every 4-6 months. We have
stringent retention policies, so Mailbox Manager runs weekly and clears
out 500-800MB every week.  After several months, I would like this space
to be recovered.  I also this was 'best practice', to defrag regularly.


-----Original Message-----
From: Lorie Gordon [mailto:lgordon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:51 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: ESEUTIL


I defrag my database on a regular basis and always thought that it was a
"best practice".  Am I wrong about this?  I have Exchange standard
edition with limited database size.  After users archive and mailboxes
are deleted I often run the defrag to recover space.  Is this not
recommended???

Lorie Gordon


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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:Neil.Hobson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:03 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: ESEUTIL


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Sorry, I meant to say "isn't recommended" rather than "isn't supported"
below.  It's time to go home here now.  :-) 

Neil Hobson
Silversands

http://www.silversands.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Hobson 
Sent: 09 July 2003 17:51
To: [ExchangeList]

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Yes, it's true that ESEUTIL will reduce the size of your database if you
use it in offline defrag mode (the /d switch).

But ask yourself why you want to reduce the size of the database. 
Exchange will reuse the whitespace contained in the database, and once
this has been reused, the physical size of the database will expand
again.
 If you reduce the size of the database, it will only grow again in the
future.

The biggest risk with ESEUTIL is when you run it in repair mode (the /p
switch).  Basically, when the repair function finds errors, it deletes
the entire page that the error is in, which means that users will lose
some data.  That's not always that much data, but if your CEO opens a
message and the attachment is then missing...  :-)

That's one of the reasons that using ESEUTIL /p on a database that is
then put back into production isn't supported.

ESEUTIL is a valid, and useful, tool.  But don't run it for the sake of
running it.

Neil Hobson
Silversands

http://www.silversands.co.uk

> Hey all,
> 
> I want to reduce the size of my e2k databases, and ive heard eseutil 
> will defrag and free up clear space in the databases.
> 
> Whats the deal with this tool as ive heard people say it can corrupt 
> the db and all sorts of nightmare stories.
> 
> Ive read the MS articles regarding this, but they arent particularly 
> useful or descriptive.
> 
> I know this subject has come up time and again, so I apologize for 
> going over old subjects.
> 
> Cheers
> 
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