Re: ESEUTIL

  • From: "Neil Hobson" <Neil.Hobson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:57:22 +0100

It would be interesting to see how much whitespace you get with a deletion 
policy such as yours - check for event ID 1221 after online maintenance runs.
 
Neil Hobson
Silversands
 
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        I also defrag the database on a regular basis, every 4-6 months. We 
have stringent retention policies, so Mailbox Manager runs weekly and clears 
out 500-800MB every week.  After several months, I would like this space to be 
recovered.  I also this was 'best practice', to defrag regularly. 
        
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        From: Lorie Gordon [mailto:lgordon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:51 PM
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        I defrag my database on a regular basis and always thought that it was 
a "best practice".  Am I wrong about this?  I have Exchange standard edition 
with limited database size.  After users archive and mailboxes are deleted I 
often run the defrag to recover space.  Is this not recommended???
        
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        From: Neil Hobson [mailto:Neil.Hobson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:03 PM
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        Sorry, I meant to say "isn't recommended" rather than "isn't supported"
        below.  It's time to go home here now.  :-)
        
        Neil Hobson
        Silversands
        
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        From: Neil Hobson
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        Yes, it's true that ESEUTIL will reduce the size of your database if you
        use it in offline defrag mode (the /d switch).
        
        But ask yourself why you want to reduce the size of the database.
        Exchange will reuse the whitespace contained in the database, and once
        this has been reused, the physical size of the database will expand
        again.
         If you reduce the size of the database, it will only grow again in the
        future.
        
        The biggest risk with ESEUTIL is when you run it in repair mode (the /p
        switch).  Basically, when the repair function finds errors, it deletes
        the entire page that the error is in, which means that users will lose
        some data.  That's not always that much data, but if your CEO opens a
        message and the attachment is then missing...  :-)
        
        That's one of the reasons that using ESEUTIL /p on a database that is
        then put back into production isn't supported.
        
        ESEUTIL is a valid, and useful, tool.  But don't run it for the sake of
        running it.
        
        Neil Hobson
        Silversands
        
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        > Hey all,
        >
        > I want to reduce the size of my e2k databases, and ive heard eseutil
        > will defrag and free up clear space in the databases.
        >
        > Whats the deal with this tool as ive heard people say it can corrupt
        > the db and all sorts of nightmare stories.
        >
        > Ive read the MS articles regarding this, but they arent particularly
        > useful or descriptive.
        >
        > I know this subject has come up time and again, so I apologize for
        > going over old subjects.
        >
        > Cheers
        >
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