RE: Anti-virus on Exchange

  • From: Sarbjit Singh Gill <ssgill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:11:43 +0800

It is 60 vulnerabilities and not 60 patches.

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:53:59 -0500
>From: "Andrew English" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Anti-virus on Exchange  
>To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
>Danny, 
>
>Can you confirm these 60 patches for ISA server that were 
released last
>week because there is no mention of it on 
www.microsoft.com/isaserver
>
>Thanks
>Andrew
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny [mailto:nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:12 PM
>To: [ExchangeList]
>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Anti-virus on Exchange
>
>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
>On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:08:17 -0600, Thomas W Shinder
><tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> http://www.MSExchange.org/
>> 
>> Hi Danny,
>> 
>> Where is the:
>> 
>> -- RADIUS based pre-authetication for 
OWA/OMA/ActiveSync/RPC over HTTP
>> access?
>
>RADIUS, yes. The rest is probably possible.
>
>> -- Where is the SSL to SSL bridging feature that prevents 
exploits
>from
>> being tunneled inside an SSL tunnel?
>
>If your ISA Windows box is compromised (just last week, MS 
released
>patches for over 60 vulnerabilities - ouch!), valid SSL 
sessions could
>be read.
>
>> -- Where is the forms-based authentication that generates 
the form at
>> the firewall, so as to allow for pre-authentication, 
session limits
>and
>> attachment control?
>
>Haven't looked into it.  Attachment control? We block all 
executables.
>
>> -- Where is the per user/per group, per protocol, per 
server, per time
>> of day, stateful filtering and stateful application layer 
inspection
>for
>> VPN remote access client connections?
>
>Done and done.
>
>> -- Where is the stateful application layer support for 
Secure Exchange
>> RPC publishing, so that your entire organization doesn't 
have to
>upgrade
>> to OL2003, and even if they did, where is the RPC 
scrubbing for the
>> de-tunneled connections?
>
>What do you expect from a $500 firewall?  My initial 
comparison was
>the BASE model Fortigate firewall.
>
>> In addition to that, ISA does have:
>> 
>> -Anti-malware (virus, worms, etc.) protection (HTTP, 
POP3, SMTP, etc.)
>> as part of its HTTP Security Filter at NO extra cost or 
licensing
>> restriction
>
>Out-of-the-box, ISA 2004 scans for brand new and old 
viruses?  Which
>engine does it use?
>
>> -Grayware protection
>> ISA does have this, as part of its built-in and add only 
suites of
>> application layer inspection filters
>
>Add-on, then? Who provides updates to grayware and spyware 
definitions?
>
>> -Signature and custom Intrusion Prevention and Protection
>> I can use the built-in ISA firewall's IDS/IPS, add-on 3rd 
party
>IDS/IPS
>> or use Snort.
>
>Who updates ISA's IDS/IPS signatures?
>
>> -Anti-spam - RBL, content, etc.
>> You can add this on to the ISA firewall, and includes 
basic SMTP
>> filtering and inspection right out of the box with its 
SMTP Filter and
>> SMTP Message Screener.
>
>A.K.A Add-on...
>
>> -Email content and attachment blocking/filtering
>> The ISA firewall has this right out of the box.
>
>'bout time.
>
>
>> -ActiveX, java, cookie, protection
>> Again, the ISA firewall has this right out of the box. 
Just configure
>> it!
>
>Cool.
>
>> -Web URL and content filtering
>> The ISA firewall has this right out of the box.
>
>Cool.
>
>> -End-to-end VPN (IPSec, PPTP, L2TP, and multiple 
encryption level
>> options) solution
>> This ISA firewall also has this right out of the box, and 
also has VPN
>> Quaratine support right out of the box.
>
>Sweet. How about AES256?
>
>> -Client VPN software which includes firewall and anti-
virus component
>> Why use proprietary VPN client software when *every 
version of
>Windows*
>> has a VPN client built-in. Best of all, no finger 
pointing when
>> something goes haywire! :)
>
>Microsoft has built-in anti-virus, egress and ingress 
stateful
>firewall, and IPSec VPN support in *every version of 
Windows*?
>
>> -Traffic shaping
>> Not included with the ISA firewall :(
>
>Uh oh.
>
>> -Syslog output
>> ISA includes right out of the box, text logging, MDSE 
logging and SQL
>> logging. Can get it to work with MySQL and Access if you 
like.
>
>I output to syslog running a FreeBSD box. 
>
>> -Protocol authentication
>> Not sure what you mean, but I'll bet its not as 
comprehensive as
>ISA's,
>> if you mean that you can control user/group access to ALL 
protocols
>> through the miracle of the Firewall client (the generic 
Winsock Proxy
>> client)
>
>LDAP, RADIUS, etc. authentication for specific protocol-
based (HTTP,
>etc.) access.
>
>> -VLAN support
>> ISA supports this right out of the box, we're using in a 
couple places
>> in product now.
>
>Awesome.
>
>> -HTTPS and SSH admin access
>> ISA supports FIPS compliant encrypted RDP -- much more 
secure!
>
>SSH2 works well here.
>
>> -Support & Maintenance includes virus and attack 
definitions
>> Same when we install GFI add-ons
>
>No add-ons necessary here. Second year maintenance is 
cheap; less than
>half the price of unit.
>
>> -NAT or transparent mode
>> The ISA firewall supports both NAT and Route 
relationships. No
>> transparent mode though, MAC exploits are too problematic 
from my
>point
>> of view to want support for this.
>
>Fortinet has this covered in the least with IPS.
>
>Defense in depth: NAT firewall, then a transparent one 
logically
>behind it. Ohhh man I love it.
>
>> You can also purchase the ISA firewall as a hardware 
appliance from
>> Network Engines, RimApp and Celestix. In fact, not even 
Microsoft PSS
>> can break into the Network Engines ISA hardware firewall, 
even when
>they
>> have console access!
>
>Do we have to bring up how many Microsoft software 
vulnerabilities
>were exposed just last week?  And I want my border firewall 
running on
>what? Microsoft software?
>
>ISA is a great product, but for my current environments is 
too
>expensive up-front and in the long-term from a cost point 
of view and
>a risk point of view.
>
>
>> Fortigate does cost less, but you don't get as much 
either.
>
>RPC(oh boy, ask the security experts about good ol' 
RPC)/HTTP/OWA
>integrations aside, the Fortigate is not comparable in cost.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>...D
>
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