[ExchangeList] Re: Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server

  • From: "Chris Wall" <Chris.Wall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:57:44 -0400

Well Dave - It all started one 'sunny day' when a high level executive called 
down to IT and said "I want a Blackberry like the one that a friend has"....   
And so BES was introduced to our network.


Then one day two other executives decided that the Treo format was what they 
wanted (along with better document editing abilities while on the road), so 
along comes Goodlink services.


And then I upgraded our Exchange environment from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003 
with lots of redundancy across the entire organization.  In my design each 
'site' has an OWA NLB server design which is perfect for providing a world wide 
footprint for ActiveSync support.  My only concern now is finding the best 
security product out there to protect the windows mobile devices.


Although we still support all three formats, with given initiatives in the 
organization, and testing on all three services - I recently have decided to 
begin deploying users with ActiveSync.  



OVERALL, my thoughts are - if you have a small organization with exchange 
servers in one Administrative group and all at the same physical site, you 
would want to look at the Goodlink Server or BES.


If you have a large organization with many sites/exchange servers, and you have 
a good Exchange design to support the ActiveSync connections, I would suggest 
using the Exchange SP2 solution.  


Goodlink and BES require minimum ping response times with your exchange servers 
that may require multiple BES or Goodlink servers to be deployed.  This gets 

ActiveSync with exchange (and given a good front-end server design) could save 
you tons of money.  But some of that money will need to be spent on a good 
security and virus solution for those devices.






From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave stevens
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:00 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server


Thanks guysfor all the information. And Chris, why do you have all 3? Anyway 
this is the deal. I have supported BES, and have implemented OMA - that is 
activesync exchange 2003 right? My understanding is that active synch is not a 
push technology but pull, you have to get on the internet to retrieve your 
mails? I might be wrong, hence the reason for all the research.


This company wants to bring me in cos of my Exchange / messaging experience. 
They would be looking to implement some sort of mobile mail technology. Now I 
would be required to do the research and then present to the business, what in 
my opinion would be the best option. BES is a tried technology, but only 
limited to Blackberry devices, I think they are looking for solutions that 
would enable existing mobile phones receive and send mails. So not quite sure 
which way to go.


Hope my situation is a bit clearer.



Chris Wall <Chris.Wall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        I have BES, Goodlink and ActiveSync for Exchange 2003 running in my 
environment (I am the only admin for all three of these solutions for our World 
Wide Org and it can be a pain in the a$$ sometimes)

        If you have specific questions, let me know.  There are many 
differences between the 3, but all have their pros and cons.


        If cost is a concern - go Active Sync


        I will let you know this - 

        Goodlink will support many device types (windows mobile and palm OS 

        BES will support Blackberry devices and now has just released support 
for Treo 650 devices (with Cingular).  

        ActiveSync has a windows format that will be more familiar to your 
users and cut down on support calls (and most third party apps are designing 
solutions for these devices over PalmOS and BBerry)


        Also, keep in mind this - You want to investigate security/virus 
solutions for whichever solution you go with.  Right now, most vendors only 
support Windows Mobile devices.  Although Goodlink now offers an in-house 
security/virus solution for mobile devices that you can purchas.  Blackberry 
has no third party Virus solutions (that I can find). 


        A couple of interesting security/virus vendors to look at while 
considering your choice is F-Secure, Mobile Armor and BlueFire.  F-Secure 
provides Security options, but you have to purchase a McAfee or Norton solution 
to work with it for Virus' control.  Then you have the whole issue of deploying 
updates over the wire vs. requiring the device to be tethered to the user's PC 
for updates.


        Long story short - you will have to do a lot of research to get the 
answers you seek, and depending on your environment, you will choose 
differently than others on this list...


        Well so long for now and let me know if you have any specific questions 
(including why I have all three in my environment)



        From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
        Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:15 PM
        To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server


        We are currently using Good Mobile Messaging.  It offers a more stable 
mobile messaging platform and support for more devices, including all Palm & 
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile) devices.





        From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave stevens
        Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:24 PM
        To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ExchangeList] Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server


        Hi Guys,


        I understand that this is not strictly and exchange question, but need 
your help. I am currently look at alternatives to BES, and what the basic 
difference between Exchange OMA and BES are. I need as much concise information 
on this as possible, as I am going to read thru and recommend to the business.








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