[evtech] Re: EVTECH Old vs EVTECH New lists: We need to make a decision as a group.

  • From: Martin K <martin.klingensmith@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: evtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:36:59 -0400

Sheer used to utilize my server for some evtech stuff. I had to take that
server offline and I haven't talked to him in almost 3 years. I'm still
certainly willing to help EV causes but the bickering really gets on my
nerves.

Let's stay on evtech.org for now and put this list on hiatus.

On Apr 12, 2010 10:28 PM, "eric@xxxxxxxxx" <eric@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It wasn't for lack of trying.  I tracked down and emailed a couple of
email addresses (which didn't work) others tried calling every phone
number they could find.  The *first* thing that was tried was to get
the list back up.  There wasn't _any_ light at the end of the tunnel,
and we had no (none, zero, nada) indication that anything would
change.   The only option was to resurrect the list elsewhere.

It's not as if people just shrugged after 5 minutes of the list being
down and said "screw it, lets's start a new list."  People did the
right thing and tried to contact the administrators, and did
everything that could reasonably be expected in the situation.

Now, after the fact, in the blazing light of hindsight, people are
saying that they "see no reason" to abandon the list.  Except that
it's been shown to be somewhat unreliable.

Don't get me wrong; I _really_ don't care if we use the "new," or the
"old" list, I just want something that works; and that requires some
sort of redundant safeguards.

One other thing I can't state strongly enough:  I appreciate all the
effort, time and money that sheer & others have put in to making the
list a reality, and in no way can I fault them for what happened; it
was an unfortunate confluence of events.

Having said that, I'll put my money where my mouth is: I'm willing to
offer any help I can with the maintenance of the (old) list.  I have
quite a bit of Linux admin experience, and it appears that evtech.org
is running Ubuntu.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Roger Stockton <rstockton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote: > > I don't fault an...

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