**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** Greetings, all! I think that Nina makes some very good points, but it is the dialogue (i.e., role play) that should be re-instated, rather than a "monologue". With all the pressure to complete projects, literature, external reading, etc., it is a pretty good bet that teachers will stop "wasting their time" on question formation. Why should they spend the needed time on this extremely complicated grammatical task if the kids are never going to be tested on it? Role plays, done correctly, facilitate in-class use of English as well as dealing with an extremely important function of language. If the Bagrut tester allows a real role-play dialogue to develop, then we have very good instrument to judge the students' English. (And yes, I am accusing some of the testers of mis-using this part of the old exam.) Jimmy Nina wrote: I think that it is grossly unfair that a student who doesn't do the project should be penalised TWICE. The oral test is to test oral skills, therefore the currect system is totally unfair. Wouldn't it be better to return to the old system of monologues? I also agree with many teachers who have written to complain that the questions on the modules seem to confuse good, English speaking students. I would prefer more challenging texts with straightforward questions that test comprehension. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####