[etni] Fw: re: Doctors and Teaching without a License
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- Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 07:42:11 +0200
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From: avi tsur - tsuravi@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Doctors and Teaching without a License
Shalom Leah ( I am replying to you but in actual fact to all those in the
profession who have similar problems)
I recommend that before you start any course at a college, you determine
what the requirements are for you to be certified. There are certain courses
that a teacher has taken in the past at a recognized university/college for
which they will be credited.
I highly recommend thay you contact your Regional English Inspector who will
guide you as to what procedures you need to go through. The English
Inspectorate is TEACHER FRIENDLY and has your interests at heart.
Learning vocabulary connected to our profession is not sufficient. As
strange as this may sound, English teachers need to be able to CONVERSE in
Hebrew in general.
I did not miss the point and believe me do understand and feel for what Olim
teachers need to go through. Yes, it is part of the system and like it or
not we as good citizens must abide by the laws and regulations.
Wishing all Shavua Tov and all the best
avi
Leah wrote:
> Avi - you're missing the point. I suspect you are not an oleh.The Ministry
> makes it extremely difficult to (first) take the classes and (second) to
> get
> the license even after taking the classes. Furthermore, this topic came up
> because the Ministry claims to be desperate for English teachers and is
> planning to train non-teachers and give them licenses!
>
> I have already taken a year long course for new olim at David Yellen. As a
> teacher new to the Israeli system, I was happy to spend my day off to take
> the course because it was a good support network, and some of the
> information was valuable, although much of the course went over things I
> had already learned in University. After that year, I found out that I
> also
> had to take many more courses: Judaism, Hebrew Literature, Civics, History
> and more. What these courses (in Hebrew) had to do with teaching English I
> don't know, but the problem was, they were offered only at night, ending
> after the last available bus to my yishuv (I suppose I could have tremped
> through the Arab villages at 10 at night!).
>
> I certainly don't object to learning more about Israel or Judaism (I am a
> history buff and also go to a seminary for older women on my day off). I
> just think the Ministry should re-think the requirements for English
> teachers, and offer the courses one day a week so that working teachers
> can
> attend. A Hebrew ulpan to learn specific vocabulary used in our profession
> would be invaluable for new Olim. Other information that we need to learn
> should be in English so that we will get the most out of the courses. I
> would love to take a course on diversity in the Israeli classroom!
>
> Also, like doctors, could we get a 10% bonus for passing the test? Maybe I
> could pass without having to take the courses!
> Avi wrote:
> > Dear Leah.
> > A doctor (medicine) who arrives in Israel with his qualifications is NOT
> > qualified unless he takes and passes the Israeli Medical Association's
> > test.
> > It is a very difficult test for which most of these candidates take a 6
> > month course (which gives them a bonus of 10% for the test if they
> > fulfil
> > the requirements). Many candidates do not pass the test and need to
> > retake
> > it once or more. Yes, even though s/he is a doctor (and in some cases
> > head
> > of department in recognized hospitals abroad) this is Israel's way of
> > ensuring a high professional standard. Should it be different for the
> > teaching profession?? I feel that teachers (like doctors) need to be
> > professionals. You will be credited for the courses you have taken and
> > passed as an educator. What you need to do now is to take the courses
> > that
> > you need which will QUALIFY you for an Israeli Teacher's Certificate.
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