**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** I looked this up once. TESL is when English is either the main language spoken in the country where the learner is learning or a major second language in that country. A major second language means that English is often heard and often used as a language of communication even though it is not the official first language of the country. TEFL is when English is a foriegn language and not used on a regular basis by regular people in the country where it is being taught. TESOL, of course, is anyone learning English who speaks a different language as a mother tongue and this includes TEFL and TESL. After reading this, I tried to figure out where Israel fits in. I suppose that we are somewhere between TEFL and TESL. I honestly don't think that this has any bearing on anything except that with TESL the students have many more opportunities for authentic language use in English. I appologize for not being able to quote the reference for this. I found the information about three years ago in a book in the Achvah library. I assume it's in other books in other libraries as well. Michele Ask Etni wrote: > **** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adele Raemer" <raemer@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ask@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [etni] Fw: RE: Differences between TESOL, TESL, TEFL > > I am afraid this didn't really answer Ahmed's question - which was: what is > the difference between TESOL and TEFL? When I first saw the question, I > also thought to myself- oh - that's easy.... but then I realized what he was > actually asking - and I'm not quite sure now that there is, in fact , a > difference between TESOL and TEFL - except that maybe TESOL could include > BOTH TEFL and TESL, since TESL and TEFL depend on the different environments > in which they are taught, and TESOL doesn't - therefore, maybe that's the > answer? > > Adele > > Christina wrote: > > Thought I'd respond to Ahmed's question: > > > >> TESOL = Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages > >> TESL - Teaching English as a Second Language > >> TEFL - Teaching English as a Foreign Language > >> What's the main difference between English as Second Language and English > >> as Foreign Language? > > > If you're teaching English to immigrants in the USA or Britain, then that > > would be considered a second language, as the students are immersed in > > English -- being that they live in a country where English is the language > > spoken. > > In Israel, for ex., for most students English is a foreign language-it's > > not spoken here and it is not assumed that students are exposed to it > > regularly (even though, in fact, through music, television, etc. they kind > > of are), hence TEFL. > > That's essentially the difference. > > ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### > ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx ##### ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####