----- Original Message ----- From: byk - byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Problems Since I was the one who originally suggested that English teachers band together to try to change what has become an absolutely impossible situation - the teaching of the English language (not how to answer questions on exams), in the Israeli classroom, from 1st to 12th grade, I feel that it is incumbent upon me to try to organize something. I'm not a good organizer. I'm not sure where to start. I am no longer part of the system. Furthermore, it has been pointed out to me that these may not be the best times to ask for more money - except in principle. However, by the time we have got ourselves organized, the world's financial problems will be better, so we might as well start now. Of course the biggest problem is that all the English teachers, particularly the native speakers, are so dumb that they can't answer the Bagrut questions! (See today's crop of letters). That was tongue in cheek, in case somebody is ready to take offence. Seriously, though, the Bagrut problems are certainly symptomatic of the problems in the English classroom, and what the teacher is required to do. Perhaps the first step is to try to draw up a list of the problems. For example, as important and listening and speaking are, vast sums of money are spent testing them in the Bagrut. Perhaps that money would be better spent elsewhere. There are certainly other ways to teach listening which are more effective than what is done now. Then there is the question of textbooks. With all due respect to the publishers, and free enterprise, we are inundated with books. How many teachers finsish their chosen book by the end of the year? Answer honestly. When I taught in high school. I never got anywhere near the end. As a private tutor, I can't remember ever having seen a pupil who finished the book. Getting half way through it is more likely. Furthermore, I feel there should be more control, and better guidelines for teachers. Benchmarks etc. are all very well, but really not precise enough. Of course there is the problem of LD pupils, many of whom are not, as we know. There is the problem of streaming pupils. Why can't the Ministry provide guidelines as to who should be in what level. Sample tests, for example. Then there is discipline in the classroom. Finally, teachers are admitting that they can't manage, and that they are not to blame. Teachers used to be ashamed to admit that they couldn't 'control' the class, feeling that they were then branded as failures. We need tools to manage, and disruptive pupils should be removed from the class. Of course I could go on and on. How do we go about setting up a manageable list, and not fall nto the trap of decisions by committees? Jennifer ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------