[esnr] Re: Summary Board Meeting

  • From: Wolfgang Keeser <wolfgangkeeser@xxxxxxx>
  • To: esnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:08:12 +0200

orit meine private email adresse ist:
Dr. Wolfgang Keeser
schawua tov!
Am 10.07.2004 um 20:10 schrieb Dr Orit Sodemann:

Wolfgang, koennte ich eine private email Adresse bekommen? Ich habe eine
Frage, die nicht auf die Liste gehoert.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolfgang Keeser" <wolfgangkeeser@xxxxxxx>
To: <esnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: [esnr] Re: Summary Board Meeting

Orit, great! Could you email us (board_ESNR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) a bit
about your clinical background. I will presumably be in Israel in
september, where we could meet.

Wolfgang Keeser
Am 09.07.2004 um 18:22 schrieb Dr Orit Sodemann:

I am interested to be a member of the Training course Committee.
Best regards
Orit Sodemann

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gruzelier, John H" <j.gruzelier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <esnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:40 PM
Subject: [esnr] Summary Board Meeting

Summary of the Board Meeting of 7th July.

The Board met by telelink and this is a summary of main issues and the
proposal for the Vote on the Referendum concerning changes to the
We particularly focussed on issues that members have raised on the
List and
it is these that are summarised here.

Training Course and Call for Committee members.

We have decided not to proceed with the basic component 1 of the
course in 2004.  We plan instead to hold a Think Tank to thoroughly
issues such as qualifications of trainees, curriculum, diverse
streams, etc,
including all the matters that have arisen on the List with reference
Training and Certification as part of the Aims of the Society.
This will be held in London or thereabouts in September and we hope
that all
members with a commitment to these issues will join the Board and
attend and
help with the process.  It may be held in a university Hall of
Residence to
provide affordable accommodation.
The outcome will be posted on the List for further discussion.
Tentative dates are 17,18 September.
We note that this delay in no way alters our prioritising this matter
as one
of extreme importance.  This is not a recipe for vacillation and
Further Members of the Training course Committee are sought.

European and International Membership.

The focus of the Society is European with predominantly European
At the same time we see no reason to restrict membership to Europeans.
belong to several US societies as an ordinary member, to give an
At no time have we had the intention of setting up an international
to rival iSNR. However, we do have every intention of encouraging
international attendance at our meetings, and involving 'international'
teachers on our training courses. This will be to the advantage of the
field in general.
Stating our aim as an international society was done in draft 2 of the
in the service of parsimony, but this has led to some members imputing
that were not intended. In order to avoid such misunderstanding the
will be restated as 'a European society which is open to international
Members of the Board, without exception have an international vision
for the
scientific and clinical aims of the society, as a society of applied
neuroscience, and one which is complimentary to I-SNR.

Referendum and Vote on changes to the Bye-laws.

The List was set up to facilitate discussion about the referendum on
the 6th
June. At the same time the proposed changes to the Bye-laws were
posted on
the web along with the existing Bye-laws. It is now proposed to set a
for voting on the changes to the Bye-laws; aside from the issue of
international versus Europe which is being addressed. This date has
been set
as 21st July.

Bye-Laws and Aims of the Society.

The Bye-laws and the Aims of the Society are being confused. Perhaps
is largely because we posted them at the same time. The Aims of a
are always evolving. Our Bye-laws in their scope and detail are very
similar to those of other comparable societies. Bye-laws of scientific
societies do not go into detail over membership qualifications,
courses, certification issues, etc. These procedures are set up by
societies, but do not form part of the Bye-laws. At a practical level
societies would never get started if all such issues were to be somehow
determined in advance.

Membership Status

All members will be members of both SAN and I-SNR until such time as
are paid directly to SAN following the Referendum outcome.

The List.

The List will serve as a valuable service in promoting discussion
about all
aspects of how the Society should function, aside from the AGM.  It
will con
tinue to serve this function, as the range of issues is expanded.
are encouraged to express their opinions.

Annual Meeting.

The Board is proposing a meeting in 2005, possibly in May. Currently a
central location is being sought.

John Gruzelier


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