Found this one: http://www.irit.fr/recherches/LIIHS/HCI-EUD/ and http://giove.cnuce.cnr.it/EUD-NET/bonn.htm Seems like we should definately get some of these European folks interested in EPR.... UK site is here: http://www.co.umist.ac.uk/EUD-net/ Their main 'hive' is here (Tor will like the first paragraph!) http://giove.cnuce.cnr.it/eud-net.htm and mailing list links from there. I'm going to send a test message over and see what responses I get back... DW http://drrw.net