[envreseconepa] Re: New EPA Administrator

From: Shana McDermott <shanamcdermott@xxxxxxxxx>
To: envreseconepa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:20:01 -0600

Hi Camille,

I am also a member of citizens climate lobby- they have a very elegant
model for distributing information. I recently introduced some NAREA
members to CCL. In fact, we just confirmed that a member from CCL will
participate in a panel at the NAREA annual workshop in DC this June.

Best,
Shana

Shana McDermott, PhD
Assistant Professor
Department of Economics
Trinity University
smcdermo@xxxxxxxxxxx
(210) 999-7441

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Camille Antinori <
camilleantinori@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Rick and Joy,  Thank you.  I do think calls to reps are helpful, as
well as aligning with other groups.  In addition to Indivisible, which I'd
also like to learn more about,  I found:

http://citizensclimatelobby.org/

Is anyone else in this group a member?  I signed up and just started the
process of communicating with my local group, too.  They have been
supporting the Climate Solutions Caucus, a House bipartisan committee on
climate change.  I am hoping to learn more, needless to say.

Best regards,
Camille

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Rick Casey <caseyrick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I would like to make a few comments in response.

I am simply a part time teacher of environmental economics at a community
college in Colorado, but I feel as a concerned citizen, with more knowledge
than most people about environmental policy, that this is a matter of
utmost importance for the environmental future of our country.

This piece of legislation, calling for the abolition of the EPA, calls
out for political reaction of the highest order. This body, as academic
experts on environmental matters, may best serve as advisors -- I don't
think this body is primarily political.

I would like to ask what other suggestions people may have, but my
suggestion is to ally with another political group that could help us
direct our efforts as academic experts.

One suggestion I would have is the Indivisible movement
<https://www.indivisibleguide.com>. They seem to know what they're
doing. I intend to make connections with a local group here in Colorado,
and can report back what develops, if that would help.

Rick Casey

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Camille Antinori <
camilleantinori@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Ashley,

I am sorry if I missed any emails about the latest developments but I
was wondering if we should collectively take some sort of action to voice
opinions about the current bill to terminate the EPA.  I imagine most on
this list would tend to oppose the bill but it certainly would be
interesting to hear various opinions, and any recommendations on courses of
action.

Camille

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Rick Casey <caseyrick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Slack is very popular, and has a more appealing interface than Google
Groups, which is pretty utilitarian.

--Rick

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Ashley Camhi <alcamhi@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi guys,

I am strongly considering moving the listserve over to a more user
friendly interface. People have suggested google groups as well as Slack.
If you have experience with either or a different interface please let me
know. I think that it would be easier since there are so many good ideas
and information coming out and I don't want them to get lost in the feed..
Also I would like to increase the membership of the group so that we can,
for example, reach out to people in some of those key states that have
Republican Senators that may be more likely to be open-minded.

Thanks,

Ashley

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Nelson, Gerald C <gnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

The DOD and intelligence agencies have done a lot of work on the need
to prepare for the consequences of climate change. A few links of
relevance.

Almost all of Naval Air Station Oceana and Marine Corps Base Quantico
sit safely more than 9 feet above the local high tide line. But 13
percent
of Naval Station Norfolk – the world’s largest naval complex – lies
below 5
feet. http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/uploads/ssrf/VA-Report.pdf

Here’s a link to an NRC study https://www.nap.edu/catalog/12
914/national-security-implications-of-climate-change-for-us-
naval-forces.

A link to a National Intelligence Council page about some reports it
commissioned on climate change - https://www.dni.gov/index.php/
about/organization/national-intelligence-council-nic-publica
tions/the-impact-of-climate-change-to-2030-commissioned-rese
arch-and-conference-reports.

Re water, I live in Western Colorado and 70% of the water in the
river runs right by my house. 2010 projections are for a 10 % decline in
flow from higher evaporation. I can find a reference for the figure if it
would be useful.

Gerald C. Nelson

Professor Emeritus, UIUC

+1 217-390-7888 <(217)%20390-7888> (cell)

+1 970-639-2079 <(970)%20639-2079> (land line)

http://bit.ly/1arho7d

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*Subject: *[envreseconepa] Re: New EPA Administrator

I like the idea of writing an op-ed, I can commit to working on
something for the Arizona Republic.

I've been thinking about how to deal with or address McCain and there
may be something to doing some research on the impact to military bases
from rising sea levels and the increase in natural disasters. I'm sure a
lot of that's already been done but I could pull it together into some
kind
of report. Another big issue in Arizona is of course water and there are
plenty of climate models that show the impact that climate change is
going
to have on the increasing population in Arizona. I'm not sure if he would
be receptive but that was the angle that came to mind.

Ashley

On Dec 8, 2016 6:11 PM, "Thomas Lyon" <tplyon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

John McCain sponsored the McCain-Lieberman Climate Stewardship Act of
2003 that passed the Senate.  So he clearly used to be on the side of
science.  Over time, though, he seems to have flipflopped.

In a February 2010 Arizona radio interview, after the host had made
lengthy comments claiming that “80 percent” of global warming science “is
based on fraud and misinformation,” McCain, who had previously countered
such inaccurate statements, made no correction.  He also denied ever
having
supported cap-and-trade.

He has also called the Waxman-Markey bill in the House (which was
very similar to McCain-Lieberman) "appear[ing] to be a cap & tax bill
that
I won't support"

So I am not so sure McCain is much of a climate champion any more.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Baldwin,EC <E.C.Baldwin@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Shouldn't John McCain be on the list? He's sponsored acts in the
past.

On the organisational issue, "slack"  is excellent for team work.
It's an enhancement of IRC, allowing you to peel off into separate
conversations, attach files, etc, while keeping out of people's inboxes,
so
people can dip in and out as works for them (you can @ individuals if you
do need their attention). I think a lot of companies use it internally,
so
it must be fairly secure.

Elizabeth Baldwin
Sent from my phone -- apologies for any typos

On 8 Dec 2016 20:31, Ashley Camhi <alcamhi@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Would anyone be willing to reach out to notable professors in these
three states to get them to join the listserve? That way we can begin to
have a coordinated effort. I am not sure that as we continue a listserve
is
the best way to organize, but I think it is good for our initial
discussions. If you have thoughts of a better mode of communication (e.g.
closed facebook page or something to that nature) I would be more than
happy to put something together.

Ashley

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Shana McDermott <
shanamcdermott@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I recently became involved with Citizens Climate Lobby and they seem
to be (relatively) successful in their use of techniques that Rick
mentioned i.e. craft articles for public news media develop legislative
contacts at the federal level. With this in mind, I am willing to write
articles for my local/regional newspaper and meet with local
representatives. If others are also interested in also doing this, then
perhaps:

1.     it would be a good idea to make a list of possible
high-impact newspaper article ideas. Or run ideas by each other on this
forum.

2.     those who have experience effectively communicating with a
political representative could provide insights and tips on how to
proceed.
This is especially relevant and timely for people in ME and OH who could
contact Susan Collins or Rob Portman as Tom mentioned.

Shana

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Lyon <tplyon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Following up on my own post, I found this article from just before
the election: https://thinkprogress.org/these-republican-lawmake
rs-are-turning-to-climate-action-to-help-keep-their-seats-7b
9b3893c9de#.x5f51vi5t
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__thinkprogress.org_these-2Drepublican-2Dlawmakers-2Dare-2Dturning-2Dto-2Dclimate-2Daction-2Dto-2Dhelp-2Dkeep-2Dtheir-2Dseats-2D7b9b3893c9de-23.x5f51vi5t&d=DQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=U_yoTzpF5FX7LaYgWCwCRwOLG6cISFwSbZSa1jSPRYg&m=YNj95z7a9BabIJWED-kQeetX7mwmnRbOaWtPlCvpzOc&s=uvt8z5pexIHMNorg33xKDB90eHOPQkaBH2Ec29Eums8&e=>

It indicates that the following Republican Senators have broken with
their party's head-in-the-sand denialism on climate:

Lindsey Graham (SC)

Mark Kirk (IL)

Kelly Ayotte (NH)

Susan Collins (ME)

Rob Portman (OH)

Mark Kirk and Kelly Ayotte lost to Democrats, so the obvious Senators
to target are

Lindsey Graham

Susan Collins

Rob Portman

Tom

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Thomas Lyon <tplyon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I heard on the news today that Senator Schatz (D-HI) is going to
grill Pruitt and make his confirmation difficult.  Since the filibuster
has
been eliminated for Cabinet appointments, confirmations will stand on a
majority vote.  However, the new Senate will have 48 Democrats, so it
will
take just 3 Republican Senators to vote NO on Pruitt.

If we could identify 3 Republican Senators who are not climate
deniers and lobby them hard...who knows?

Tom

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Rick Casey <caseyrick@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

This is one idea I had:

Inside the EPA administration, can we identify those next in the
chain of command, and communicate to the concerned academic community how
we might begin communicating with them on how to resist the faulty policy
directives that are sure to come from this new director.

In other words, this would be an infiltration action taken for the
good of the people and the environment. I suspect much of the staff at
the
EPA will not like these policy directives either, and will want to
actively
resist implementing them. I am wondering if the academic community can
build public support for them, by publicizing and criticizing the
directives and the specific EPA staff that are instructed to carry them
out. This could be a combination of articles in public news media,
contact
with legislative representatives at all levels of government, and other
regulatory agencies, to make the public as aware as possible how ill
advised and unpopular the policies actually are.

The analogy is to war crimes, where soldiers have the right to resist
criminal orders from commanding officers. Another analogy is the Irish
resistance that actively infiltrated the British police during its
occupation of northern Ireland, in order to get intelligence on planned
actions, and anticipate them.

Just a thought....

Rick Casey
Lafayette, CO

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Ashley Camhi <alcamhi@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

As many of you know the new head of the EPA was announced yesterday -
Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma Attorney General.

Here are a few reference articles:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/20
16/12/07/trump-names-scott-pruitt-oklahoma-attorney-general-
suing-epa-on-climate-change-to-head-the-epa/?utm_term=.676974035f44
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.washingtonpost.com_news_energy-2Denvironment_wp_2016_12_07_trump-2Dnames-2Dscott-2Dpruitt-2Doklahoma-2Dattorney-2Dgeneral-2Dsuing-2Depa-2Don-2Dclimate-2Dchange-2Dto-2Dhead-2Dthe-2Depa_-3Futm-5Fterm-3D.676974035f44&d=DQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=U_yoTzpF5FX7LaYgWCwCRwOLG6cISFwSbZSa1jSPRYg&m=YNj95z7a9BabIJWED-kQeetX7mwmnRbOaWtPlCvpzOc&s=c3-hbl3taER6oOgMscGhN5mZdyEuvKBCuj_6WdpmoJw&e=>

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/us/politics/scott-pruitt-e
pa-trump.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fearth&ac
tion=click&contentCollection=earth&region=rank&module=packag
e&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/opinion/an-enemy-of-the-ep
a-to-head-it.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=s
tory-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion
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I really think this is a good group for discussion and action. It
would be great to get this conversation started up once again now that we
know who will be in charge. Now let's think about what we can do.

Thanks,

Ashley

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*Ashley L. Camhi*

Doctoral Candidate

Center for Biology & Society

EcoServices Lab

School of Life Sciences

Arizona State University

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Thomas P. Lyon

Dow Chair of Sustainable Science, Technology and Policy
Ross School of Business
School of Natural Resources and Environment
University of Michigan
701 Tappan St., Room 6366
Ann Arbor, MI 48409
734-615-1639

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Thomas P. Lyon

Dow Chair of Sustainable Science, Technology and Policy
Ross School of Business
School of Natural Resources and Environment
University of Michigan
701 Tappan St., Room 6366
Ann Arbor, MI 48409
734-615-1639

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_________________________

Shana M. McDermott, PhD

Assistant Professor

Department of Economics

Trinity University

(860)989-6202

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*Ashley L. Camhi*

Doctoral Candidate

Center for Biology & Society

EcoServices Lab

School of Life Sciences

Arizona State University

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Thomas P. Lyon

Dow Chair of Sustainable Science, Technology and Policy
Ross School of Business
School of Natural Resources and Environment
University of Michigan
701 Tappan St., Room 6366
Ann Arbor, MI 48409
734-615-1639 <(734)%20615-1639>

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*Ashley L. Camhi*
Doctoral Candidate
Center for Biology & Society
EcoServices Lab
School of Life Sciences
Arizona State University

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_________________________
Shana M. McDermott, PhD
Assistant Professor
Department of Economics
Trinity University
(860)989-6202

References:
- [envreseconepa] Re: New EPA Administrator
  - From: Camille Antinori
- [envreseconepa] Re: New EPA Administrator
  - From: Rick Casey
- [envreseconepa] Re: New EPA Administrator
  - From: Camille Antinori

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