I agree- but then you get 15mpg again- That was my big dilemma, it was either way too small or the mileage was terrible- nothing that did both- I guess it makes sense but wow- an MDX or Ridgeline was rated at 15mpg, so was my truck, so where's the trade off, my truck had the 6.0 that felt like a race car when I wanted it to, the MDX had 300hp but didn't feel like 300hp, so the mileage was hard to get over.. Anything with any size gets pretty terrible mileage, it would be nice to be able to drive a car like that John! From: elky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:elky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Adams Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:40 AM To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [elky] Re: Monte is gone. Well good to hear it has a good home and I did get to ride in it before you sold it. I know two people that have Minis. They kinda like them.. Small and they get shoved around on the road cause everyone ignores them. One is a stick on an auto. The auto gets quite a bit better mileage than the stick does. It's in the same league as the PT Cruiser in that the auto gets better mileage and has more power cause with that tiny engine it has to have a torque converter to get any kind of acceleration. Geri's PT feels like it has a 90hp engine cause it's the stick version. I do kind of like the clubman but my days of sitting on the ground and crawling out of Tonka big wheels are over. Make that thing about 3x as big and I'd want one. Robert Adams On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM, John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: We are waiting for them to install the plates on a brand new Mini Clubman. Decided to lease it and write it off on Cindy's company. That way, no car to fix. Tires and gas only for 3 years The Monte went to a real good home. The dude has 2 boys 8 and 12 that will be helping him fix it up for car shows. He loved it and was real impressed with how well it drove. Laid rubber all the way up the hill. I'll be able to see that In the street to remember it by. JC Sent from my iPhone Rules: Please play nicely with others. -List members page (text & pic links): http://www.myelcamino.net/eclist.htm -List members page (all pics): http://www.myelcamino.net/ec_list.htm