F-104 Starfighter barely had wings to start with. There's not much to take off. On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:21 PM, John Christensen wrote: > using an F-104 jet fighter without wings: Rules: Please play nicely with others. -List members page (text & pic links): http://www.myelcamino.net/eclist.htm -List members page (all pics): http://www.myelcamino.net/ec_list.htm