[elky] Re: A slightly unusual battery charger

  • From: Robert Adams <elcam84@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:22:37 -0500

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Dann Keller <kwhale22@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Good for you; your area would seem great for that.  Does your local
> utility buy the power you produce and then give you credit against your
> bill?

            If you have the old mechanical meter the meter just either slows
or runs backwards when power is going back to the grid. Now with the newer
electronic meters you have to have them type a few keystrokes in their
computer and they will buy back excess power. You also get to keep the
renewable energy credits so you can sell them on the market to companies
that need them to meet their emission credits...
         The electronic ones won't run backwards but will show an arrow when
power is going into the grid.

                We would need about a 6K watt system for about what we use.
This summer more than that.

> It's good to see at least the Evergreen panels are US made.  In Arizona
> they get tax credits for installing China-made panels.

          Basically no warranty on the china panels... Course on any of them
there is no way to know how long anyone will be in business.

          There is also a company in Saginaw MI making panels now. They are
hiring ex auto workers.(don't get me started on how overpaid they

> What really torques me off is our regional utility brags about all the
> "green" wind power units they are installing and getting tax credits for,
> and the damn things are made in Brazil and shipped up here.    If there is a
> savings grace they aren't being intalled by Chinese; but maybe by those
> other illegal types, ya never know.

             Yeah I see them on the road every day here on their way up from
the port in Houston.

> Enough ranting for one night, but with jobs so damn scarce I resent tax
> credits being used to create jobs in foreign countries.
> Dan

                Yup. And our corporate culture wasn't so greedy we could
easily compete with many of those imports.

              Robert Adams

>  ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 21:06:54 -0500
> Subject: [elky] Re: A slightly unusual battery charger
> From: elcam84@xxxxxxxxx
> To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                     Eventually I plan to do solar panels on the shop and a
> grid tie inverter. Panels have come way down in price in the last year.
> There are some as low as 75 cents a watt( not in a case) and ready to bolt
> to roof ones for as low as $1.34 a watt and these are polycrystaline not the
> cheaper amorphous like the HF kit. Even evergreen brand ones are available
> for $1.54 a watt and they come with 20-30 year warranties depending on brand
> etc.
>                 Now weather you go with a single sunnyboy inverter or a
> micro inverter on each panel is the decision... DC cables don't need to be
> in conduit but AC does so a correct install of the micro inverters takes
> quite a bit of liquitite and fittings. The dc lines run about 600 volts
> going into the inverter and up to 1000 is possible with some panels.
>                I'd like to eventually cover the shop roof with them. 20x60
> roof so can fit quite a few panels and in full sun all day all year long
> after I cut one ugly tree down. Not sure which inverter direction I want to
> go when I get to that point.
>                  The best prices on solar panels is
> http://www.sunelec.com/ If they were local I'd pick up a panel here and
> there and get started on it 200 watts at a time.
>                                     Robert Adams
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Mary McCarthy <printces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> yeah, but you might find one at a county auction?
> then, of course there is always Midnight Highway Equipment, they ARE
> trailer ready,.....
> M
>  Here in NC the highway road crew's have them along the road on utility
> trailers. Hmmmmmmmmmm they are already on wheels, I wonder how long they
> will last? They are expensive.

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