Tiron feel free to change your naval where you think it is affected by this
rule
Just arrived home and can have 1 hour or so wife-free, could we play on a
bit the western battles so that we proceed with the turn? I am not normally
in a hurry, but given that I will be packing tommorow evening, and
traveling for 4 days, things will slow down
Turkish turn should not affect the west
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Makis Xiroyannis <
makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Like Yannis, I also remember many cases, and more importantly remember
cases were we LOST corps (instead of retreating into the city) so that the
opponent cannot move further. I have lost several corps this way, and the
centrals too.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:08 PM, Yannis Sykamias <ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I can certainly recall cases from our first war with France where we
applied this for corps thus allowing the attacker to continue its move.
I agree with Makis, it is not proper to apply any change in the middle of
a turn so we may proceed the turn while discussing on what is the proper
way to implement this action.
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From: Laertes Papaspyrou <bitoulis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 19:52
Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Something about rules
To: <eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Regarding the rule under discussion, we play it as such for depot
garrisons. Not sure about corps.
I found the below rules :
7.3.2.1: A corps must cease movement when it consumes its movement
allowance or when it enters an area containing an unbesieged enemy corps
(not if the area contains only cossacks, freikorps, guerrillas and/or
garrisons).
7.3.6.2 GARRISONED DEPOT AREA: If an enemy depot is garrisoned, the
player controlling the garrison factors has the option of immediately
destroying the depot before the moving force chooses whether to leave the
area (if permissible) or to stay and ght. If the garrison does not
elect to
destroy the depot and the phasing force chooses to stop its movement and
ght, the depot may be captured after land combat (see 7.3.6.1) and
destroyed or converted (but not used for supply this major power's
sequence-also see 7.5.2.14). If the garrison destroys the depot, the
garrison
surrenders or all or part (if city cannot hold all-the part not moved to
the
city will surrender) can be moved to an unbesieged friendly controlled or
vacant city in that same area, at the owning player's option.
So it seems you only get he option to continue moving when facing a depot
garrison. I think this how we have been playing by now.
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*From:* Makis Xiroyannis <makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>
*To:* eiagreek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Sent:* Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 19:46
*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: Something about rules
I don't have the rules in front of me but this is how we have been
playing it yes. I suggest we do not change it mid move even if you are
correct. I would also suggest that you change the part of your naval move
that was jeopardised due to playing differently.
'Re Turkey, I had hoped he would have posted so that you have an overall
view of things, but something is probably holding him up, so I would
suggest we continue with the Western front were Turkish actions are not
very relevant.
On 14 Feb 2018 6:59 pm, "Tiron" <strategija@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
During discussions with my allies it turned out that the group has played
before in one why I find unusual and it certainly compromises part of my
naval move.
I am told the corps can continue movement after initial battle is
declared but defender retreats into city.
I would like to note the rules here:
*7.5.1 GENERAL RULES OF LAND COMBAT:* If *at the end of all movement of
the phasing major power*, enemy forces (excluding guerillas-see
10.1.1.3) occupy the same area as its corps, freikorps or cossacks, the
phasing major power must attack in those areas (also see 7.3.7 and 7.3.8).
*7.5.1.1 DEFENDER RETIREMENT INTO CITY:* Any forces or portion of forces
upon whom an attack is declared may immediately retire into any friendly
controlled or vacant, and unbesieged city in that area but not so as to
exceed that city's garrison capacity.
7.5.1 is clear, you complete your movement and anywhere you enter enemy
area and say Attack!
7.5.1.1. says after you said Attack! defender can retreat into city .
So the sequence should be like this
Movement -> Attack -> Retreat into city
I do not see where is says after retreating into city you go back to step
1.
On a side note, are we waiting for Turkish turn or we proceed with French
battles?
