I agree that the game might be broken if this stands but in the opposite
direction! 😛
7.4.2.1 PAYING FOR DEPOT SUPPLY: Any corps in a depot area or which can trace
an unblocked route to a depot may use depot supply. Besieged port city
garrisons (regardless of size) may also use depot supply (see 7.4.3 and 7.4.4).
The costs for all corps and separate garrisons are summed and any fraction
rounded up, that amount then being deducted from that major power's current
monetary total. A major power may not use depot supply for a corps if it
doesn't have enough money to pay the cost and such corps must instead forage
for supply.
There is no definition of an unblocked route but if two nations are at war then
it would make sense to block any supply targeting your enemy regardless of the
supply source.
Why you consider attacking a neutral fleet that carries enemy troops logical?
Do you believe that the enemy troops are sitting on the deck with t-shirts
stating their nationality and intention? 😉
To me it is the same issue and since it is allowed in naval it should be
similar to land.
I would like to hear the opinion of the other group members though.
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Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Some questions
1. if you found something in the rules, by all means, post it here, otherwise,
how do you explain that you know the destination of a convoy, and you intercept
it as well without being at war? It made sense to me when it was French (with
which you are at war and care not for the destination - you just stop it) but
it does not make sense to me when it is a friendly force. The only case I could
find that clearly opposes this logic (attacking a neutral/friendly force) is
when a neutral fleet carries enemy corps, but there the reasoning is obvious,
the game is broken otherwise.
2. No off course, no need to pay costs in that case, since your movement is not
complete. Try "part 1", "part 2"
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On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:04 PM Yannis Sykamias
<ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I am not sure I agree with the case of Spanish supply on French troops given
that the destination is an enemy one but in any case we may discuss.
Regarding my second question I am fine with playing corps by corps however in
this case I will not post any supply costs until all moves are fully completed
in order not to reveal potential intention to move further or not. Agreed?
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Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Some questions
One more clarification can Prussian corps block supply from Spanish depot to
French troops?
Again not sure, but unless in Prussian territory, I don't think so. Prussia is
not at war with Spain, they would not intercept Spanish convoys.
Last, given that we will have many moves some of which might move through
garrisoned depots, how do we plan to play this?
Corps by corps?
Country by country?
Do we move stacks on area by area basis wait for a decision from the depot
owner and then move on???
Play country-by-country. Movement is always assumed to be corps-by-corps even
when we move stacks. When there is a corps moving that enemy decision is
required before further movement, note it on the map so that the opponent can
reply. Then continue movement from there.
If the decision affects more than one move, wait for that then continue with
your remaining moves.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 6:32 PM Yannis Sykamias
<ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Given that no one else replied on this I assume we are all on the same page.
One more clarification can Prussian corps block supply from Spanish depot to
French troops?
Last, given that we will have many moves some of which might move through
garrisoned depots, how do we plan to play this?
Corps by corps?
Country by country?
Do we move stacks on area by area basis wait for a decision from the depot
owner and then move on???
I am just asking in order to know how to prepare the cb files.
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Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Some questions
Except his 1st paragraph i agree with Makis 😛
apologies from my side as well
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Subject: [eiagreek] Re: Some questions
Apologies for the prolonged delay of this turn but day to day issues as well as
synchronization of communication among 4 people are not always combining...
You are waking us out of our slumber. Expect heavy losses.
Assuming Prussia enters a location where France and Spain both have armies. Is
the Spanish army requested to immediately leave the battlefield (or declare war
if feasible) or it has the option to remain in the area and retire behind the
city walls (if this is feasible).
The rules say(7.3.8.4): "Must now leave the area, moving to any adjacent area"
I don't think retiring behind walls is included.
The opposite scenario, Spain enters an area where Prussian and British forces
are located. Do the Prussians need to leave the area if the British decide to
retire behind the city walls (assuming of course that this is feasible)?
Yes because we are at step 4 at this stage(7.3.8.4), before step 7(7.3.8.7)
when we are preparing for battle, and at THAT stage the defender has the option
"withdraw behind walls"
What happens if a Prussian corps sieges Namur (garrisoned both by french and
Spanish forces) ? What is the forage value that France will roll in Namur
(currently there are 5 Spanish factors and 1 French) in a city with 3 spires.
See 10.3.3 Spanish forces immediately surrender and may be redeployed during
next reinforcement. French garrison forages and fights alone.
Can Prussian corps block supply leading to Spanish forces if they are
originated from French depots?
Don't remember a specific rule on it, but it makes sense that Prussia blocks
supply since wagons are French and cannot move over hostile corps for whatever
reason.
if anyone has a different understanding on any of the above please say so.
M.
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:09 PM Yannis Sykamias
<ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Apologies for the prolonged delay of this turn but day to day issues as well as
synchronization of communication among 4 people are not always combining...
Some questions to the group in order to clarify in advance some issues:
All issues occur in the case Spain or Prussia (respectively) are engaged in
battle with other nations' armies present in the area.
Assuming Prussia enters a location where France and Spain both have armies. Is
the Spanish army requested to immediately leave the battlefield (or declare war
if feasible) or it has the option to remain in the area and retire behind the
city walls (if this is feasible).
The opposite scenario, Spain enters an area where Prussian and British forces
are located. Do the Prussians need to leave the area if the British decide to
retire behind the city walls (assuming of course that this is feasible)?
What happens if a Prussian corps sieges Namur (garrisoned both by french and
Spanish forces) ? What is the forage value that France will roll in Namur
(currently there are 5 Spanish factors and 1 French) in a city with 3 spires.
Can Prussian corps block supply leading to Spanish forces if they are
originated from French depots?
Thank you!
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