Hi Yannis,
Yes, the corps placement is up to players, only you know your locations.
Beside Venice and Denmark, are there any other minors with morale 2? I
can look into it for me but it makes no sense to pick nation color based
on morale.
Circle icon is replaced with the ! yellow triage, a bit more visible now
but I think it will be used much less as you can select and see the
number of corps in any area. No need to write (Wellington + 2 corps)
On 17.4.2019. 21:51, Yannis Sykamias wrote:
Fantastic work Tiron, thank you!
I assume we have to place the corps on the map only?
Just two comments, since we are now using one colour for the minors and we insert a comment for their nationality, would it be feasible to have a two colour selection, one for minors with morale 2 and one for minors with morale 3 (i don't think there are minors with morale 4 except for Poland)?
Also, in the additional markers we are missing the circle icon that we use in order to place a comment on the stacks on the map. Is it feasible to have it as well?
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: Fwd: Re: turnaround issue
we are on it Tiron, thank you for all the work!
Yannis yes, amazing as it sounds the game will help with the reconstruction, I read a similar article on it yesterday
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 8:34 PM Tiron <strategija@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:strategija@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Cb files has been sent and the setup files are posted on Trello,
when you can please check them out.
On 17.4.2019. 19:32, Yannis Sykamias wrote:
And there is more
https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/348227/supporting-notre-dame-de-paris
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on other news
https://www.newsbeast.gr/world/arthro/4773099/pos-ena-videogame-mporei-na-sosei-tin-panagia-ton-parision
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Impressive! 👍
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: Fwd: Re: turnaround issue
You could, but its double work. It will have to be redone by
someone in the new CB. It will have a different structure apart
corp changes, it is all-in-one page now: map and country cards.
Every aspect of the game will be held there so the need for my
excel file minimizes.
here, you can have an idea of how it looks
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:59 AM Dimitris Stavr.
<poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Goodmorning
I think Russia is already one step ahead than everyone!!!
Should we proceed with reinforcements or wait for rhe new cb?
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Good morning, 24 hours extension for CB due to encountering
problems, should not matter much since Russia is not
available for 1 week.
Στις Τρί, 16 Απρ 2019, 18:17 ο χρήστης NIKOLAOY DHMHTRIOS
<nikolad1@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nikolad1@xxxxxxxxx>> έγραψε:
Good afternoon gentlemen
Due to an inordinate huge amount of work as well as the
Shiloh event on the weekend (which you are expected to
attend)
don't expect much (anything) from me before Monday
Dimitris
Στις 2019-04-16 12:36, Laertes Papaspyrou έγραψε:
Oh great! thanks for the update and thanks to me for asking.
ok, thanks to Tiron as well for doing all the work. :)
On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, 12:35:15 EEST, Makis
Xiroyannis <makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:makis.xiroyannis@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Tiron has them almost ready, I have seen the files on
Sunday. Small changes were underway, I thought it would
be ready yesterday, it will probably be today. No need
for one more turn before transition, he has already
placed everything on board!
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:11 PM Laertes Papaspyrou
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So, do we have a timeline for the CB transition? Is
there anything we can do from our side to help?
Shall we do one more turn, since I guess we will
break for Easter anyway?
On Friday, 12 April 2019, 16:19:02 EEST, Yannis
Sykamias <ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
i agree on Makis' proposals.
Since we have some spare time do you want to discuss
now the issue with the depot garrison and whether it
is assumed as a city garrison as well?
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: Fwd: Re: turnaround issue
I sum this up
- we change CB files so that we can all touch
everything and anyone can make a correction
- we post combined files when possible, for example,
reinforcements & naval, naval & land etc. This is
for speed only and/never changes the sequence of the
game/. So if for example someone posts his
reinforcements, but sees in political phase than he
was Dowed by someone else, he has every right to
change the reinforcement file he already posted; in
fact, he can change everything in his political as
well after the DoW.
- we keep a limit of 48 hours per country when it is
our time to play. Combined moves multiply this by
the number of countries combining. We try to take
into account RL factors, for example, that we will
be away during the weekend.
- if we cannot keep this 'limit' for real life
reasons, we just inform everyone about it. We will
still have delays for real life reasons, but we
should not keep our co-players in the dark - for
example 1 week passing by with no input what's
happening.
- if, after everything, it is simply not possible to
play for a while for whatever reasons, we allow an
ally to play for us for a while, to keep the game
flowing
The above should be more than enough to have a
reasonably paced game. We have been playing for 2.5
real-life years, almost completing 5 gaming years.
Let's not make this game a 5 RL years one :)
On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 4:11 PM Yannis Sykamias
<ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
i am fine both with the map and the updated cb.
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: Fwd: Re: turnaround issue
we don't have to change if we are cool with this
one. The other map is the same, only with a
unique number on each territory (see attached)
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:38 PM Dimitris Stavr.
<poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Good idea Tiron. I think too it can help.
I'm used of this map but no problem for any
other
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re: Fwd: Re:
turnaround issue
I like this solution a lot. Corps are still
hidden, but anyone can move them, and for
simple stuff you need only reply by email on
your phone, no uploads needed.
also, maybe it is a chance to use the
numerical map? or are you ok with this one?
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On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 7:13 PM Tiron
<strategija@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:strategija@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Like I mentioned on Trello, my
experience is that playing with
Cyberboard is always slow because the
game is always waiting for someone to
move the pieces in sequence.
I would propose to build a new CB file
where everyone can move any piece on the
map, even removing pieces form the map.
With a TO DO list like we already have
on top in trello that would speed up as
anyone can keep the game up-to-date and
if a player makes just a small change he
can add it to TO DO list. For example in
naval phase Britain moves only one
fleet, it is just to send an email to
the group or add it to TO DO list and
anyone doing a turn later can move it.
But it would also help with corps
removal, after battle victor is rolling
and right after rolling he can move the
defeated army in withdrawal, etc. It
would add some flexibility in keeping
the CB file but allowing to also play
outside it.
The corps back side would still be
invisible to anyone but the country
player so the corps identification
remains secret.
That would mean we would have to place
our corps locations again but it should
be a 5 minute job, I can do all other
markers.
On 5.4.2019. 18:01, Makis Xiroyannis wrote:
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Date: Παρ, 5 Απρ 2019, 19:00
Subject: Re: [eiagreek] Re: turnaround
issue
To: ioannis sikamias
<ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
I believe Tiron already has a solution
to this. Tiron, would you like to say
more ?
Στις Παρ, 5 Απρ 2019, 18:41 ο χρήστης
Yannis Sykamias <ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ysykamias@xxxxxxxxxxx>> έγραψε:
I am fine as well but we need to
overcome the practical issue of
playing an ally's turn.
First we need his agreement and
then we need the cb file. No
objection for me though.
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] Re:
turnaround issue
i'm perfectly fine with 1-5, and
i'll do my best to comply in the future
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*Subject:* [eiagreek] turnaround issue
Gentlemen,
Delays in posting a turn result in
a lot of displeasure. When we
finish our current turn (so that we
don't delay the current one
further) we need to discuss it. It
is a fact that we cannot play this
game with "real life" turnaround,
we can't have 1 month per turn. It
is also a fact that there is real
life in between and shit happens to
everyone at times. I have in the
past commented that when someone is
not available for real life
reasons, one of his allies should
do his turn so that we do not all
delay. So far I believe only me has
done this once, when Turkey was
away for 1 week. I am perfectly
fine for someone else to play
France when I am occupied with
real-life issues, probably we all
feel the same since the game
immediately falls rapidly in
importance when there are other
priorities.
Some suggestions to speed up
1. If there are no declarations of
war, we skip the political step and
just announce alliances and
combined moves. There is not much
at this stage to worth waiting a
couple of days.
2. Post reinforcements together
with naval when you can (unless GB
wants to play last or there is a
surprise planned)
3. Having done that, the truth is
that it is usually the land step
that takes ages. Since perfect
cooperation is not always possible
(or as a matter of fact,
historical) give a speed limit of
48 hours per player in the combined
move. That means a 4 player
alliance should have posted
their land phase in a max of 8 days.
4. If you are planning to move away
for the weekend or some other time,
you know that in advance, so post
your move in advance so that game
can continue on weekends. Some
people even prefer playing on
weekends since they have more free time
5. If you are going to be away for
more than 2 days, let us know. Very
few people do this. It is just
courtesy but it helps, as sometimes
it is not the actual delay but the
fact that we DONT KNOW what hurts.
If we know for example Makis is ill
is abroad this week and returns on
Sunday, we know not to expect a
turn from him until then, or Makis
asks Spain to do his turn.
I feel like I have said some of the
above before in posts or 1 to 1
discussion. We don't need more
rules, just to keep the ones we
have discussed.
We know when it is dragging too
long. We all feel it. Players
responsible should make an effort
to speed up, even at the cost of
perfect gameplay. I much more
respect that, than a flawless turn.
When I played the game as a board
game, you can't imagine how many
mistakes were happening every time,
especially from allied/combined
moves. But it was part of the game.
You have a courtesy time limit when
people are standing looking at you
while you play across a map in an
evening. Should not be that hard to
make something similar here. We all
agreed that we check our emails
daily in order to join this game.
You have anything else in mind that
we can do to improve this?
M.
Yes, me! Not sure how more clear do
I need to make it. I dont want to
play a game I need wait 2-4 weeks
every time for others to play and I
play in one day. Simple as that.
And it is not the first time this
has happened. I guess I need to
repeat my disclaimer, I dont blame
anyone, but unless we can find some
middle ground, I'm not interested
in continuing this game. And
believe me, the only reason is that
I really like the game, which makes
me want to play more. Just getting
a fix once a month is not good
enough...
On Thursday, 4 April 2019, 13:51:49
EEST, Dimitris Stavr.
<poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:poliorkitis@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
fair point from Laertis
Me and all other involved in this
delay, have already apologized.
it is something that made ME to
feel like Laertis as well.
if for ANY reason anyone thinks we
should discuss for the continuation
of the game then let's do it.
straight and clear.
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