Hid Jamie/Don, we can use this for a while, Jamie is looking into Yahoo groups as you can stop archives search and restrict membership and it also have a great lot of other features we could use until we can get a coder to put it all in the members area of the site. cheers, Kev Kevin Ison eekos Limited The Old Hackfall Grewelthorpe HG4 3BW Company Number - 5504935 www.eekos.com