Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
- From: sarge@xxxxxxxxxx
- To: ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:08:54 -0700
No problem, John. Always happy to ruin someone's good day. :-) I just
wish I would've thought about this earlier before you went through the
hassle of the switch. I'm on a couple of free listservs for my
neighborhood, etc., and totally forgot about the fact that they're opened
up to search engines. Better late than never, eh.
As a former colleague once said to me, "You break things!" As someone who
now currently does most of his work in verification, I take it as a badge
of honor. :-)
> As I suspected, the "realtime" emails are private, but the double talking
> SOBs
> later make all of our "archives" searchable on google, and that's how they
> make
> their money. Google advertisers pay to put ads on the archive searches.
> They don't tell users that up front, you have to ask the right questions,
> which I just now got around to doing.
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> May I suggest that someone do some digging to make sure that none of our
> old LSOFT emails can be found via similar google or other search
> mechanisms ?
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> In the meantime, I will contact LSOFT ( our previous provider) and see
> about
> getting us back on that system. At this point, I really don't trust ANY
> free
> system, the old adage comes to mind........................
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> There just ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
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> In our case, we cannot expect a free server to be accountable to us, that
> would
> imply an exchange of money.
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> Sorry for being too trusting, this just reinforces my normal cynical
> nature,
> which I'll be going back to, thank you very much.
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> And....................Mike, thanks for being a trouble maker, you may
> have
> ruined the good day I was having, but thanks.
>
> L8R
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> PS. This raises another question though, do any of our personal email
> providers
> make email archives open to public search ?
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> --- On Thu, 8/26/10, john laverdier <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> From: john laverdier <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
> To: "ee shoppahs" <ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 2:05 PM
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> Yeah,
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> It's worse than I thought, I was able to get into Freelists and browse our
> emails without logging in at all. Anybody can apparently do it with the
> right link.
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> I'm going to contact their staff about it, but I suspect that we are going
> to end
> up going back to LSOFT and paying the fees.
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> L8R
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> --- On Thu, 8/26/10, poller@xxxxxxxxxxx <poller@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> From: poller@xxxxxxxxxxx <poller@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
> To: "john laverdier" <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx>, ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:56 AM
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> http://www.google.com/m/search?q=ee-shoppahs
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> Returned a bunch of emails including one from 13 August.
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> Clicking pn the link brings up the full email
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> Jack
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> Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
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> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "john laverdier" <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, Aug 26, 2010 6:42 am
> Subject: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
> To: <ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Mike,
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> I have all the options marked "private" so that nobody else can
> join, and nobody can read our emails. Freelists has admin programmable
> options that allow some of the lists to be "open" and some "closed".
> Ours is configured for private.
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> If you can prove otherwise, I'm all ears. (it's possible that
> I've got a hole in the config, but I don't think so).
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> L8R
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> PS. Stuart Horton tried but was unable to get a
> list of other
> members email addresses from the freelists server. That's why I
> mailed it to the list.
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> --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Dave VanHatten <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> From: Dave VanHatten <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
>> To: "ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 10:41 PM
>> Michael,
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>> Is this true? What makes you think so? Give us
>> an example!
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>> Michael C. Kavcak wrote:
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>> > Hey gang,
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>> > Now that we've moved the shoppahs listserv to
>> freelists, it's now findable by Google. Just thought
>> everyone should be made aware that the rest of the world can
>> now read our emails, in case you didn't know.
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>> > --
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> > Michael C. Kavcak, CEO|709 Horseback Hollow|"The
>> ultimate measure of man is not where
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>> > Sarge's Invincible |Austin, TX
>> 78732 | he stands in moments of comfort and
>> >
>> > Consulting
>> |512-266-3734 | convenience, but
>> where he stands at
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>> > http://www.kavcak.com |sarge@xxxxxxxxxx
>> | times of challenge and controversy"-MLK
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