Thank you, Clare; I feel vindicated and as angry as you are; didn't know that about Braille music but should not have been surprised. It just fills me with impotent fury! Yes, I slow down when reading aloud, too, though not always consciously. Chris often likes to watch telly or a DVD when we're having a sandwich or something. I won't read on the BrailleNote while eating so often read a Braille book if the telly is of no interest. This also reminded me of when someone out here developed - before computers- a sort of immediate transcription device; the Perkins sat on top of it and as you wrote in Braille, it produced a print copy. Mine came out only semi-literate and they told me I had obviously made mistakes. I hadn't; I wrote too quickly for the device. I was also accused, light-heartedly, of having a recording of someone brailing in my room and playing it back at double-speed when training with my second Guide dog; they had never heard anyone write so quickly here. Okay, David, sorry; the very tenuous connection with books is that my very first short stories were composed using a Perkins and one of the poems made it into an anthology in 2007. Elaine -----Original Message----- From: ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clare Gailans Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2013 7:00 PM To: ebooktalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ebooktalk] Re: Learning and teaching Braille. Elaine, couldn't agree more. Braille is the single most important inanimate thing in my life. I think a huge amount of harm has been done by the reluctance of blind charities to acknowledge that the lack of braille skills is illiteracy. If these people had really listened to professional readers, they couldn't fail to notice that they almost always read more slowly than they could. I consciously slow myself down when reading aloud, because it is quite uncomfortable to listen to someone reading as fast as the words are going into their brain. If you think the braille outlook is depressing, the braille music one is worse. Even in a school for the blind, I have met a teacher who had been the music teacher for five years and hadn't (got round) to learning braille music. One very able pupil who was felt to need it was passed on to a retired teacher for email help. Sorry for getting away from books, but I often sit with a braille book in company, where it would be anti-social to use headphones, and you couldn't dip in and out of the conversation. Clare