I trained as a shorthand typist when typewriters were still in common use. Many of my jobs were boring but I would enhance my days by making sure the documents I produced were well laid out. My daughter, some 20-odd years later also trained as a secretary but by now computers were in common use. I was appalled to learn that paragraphs are no longer indented, the sendee and recipient's addresses just hugging the lefthand margin, headings no longer centred and that in her office at least it was quite acceptable to use apostrophied words. Alison -----Original Message----- From: ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steven Bingham Sent: 08 July 2013 17:12 To: ebooktalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ebooktalk] Re: Grammar Question Pele The list belongs to next week it therefore has the apostrophe s "Next week's list). The Civil Service guidance used to be "Don not use apostrophes for possessives - I tink this was on the basis that most people didn't know how to use them properly and it was better not to use them than to show up people's ignorance. The CS guidance was always based on a simplistic approach that would have preferred to use no punctuation at all. Write paragraphs of one sentence and you don't need a fullstop because the new line would force a break. I often used to think that what they would really like was documents of one paragraph or sone sentence of one word. But even the idiots responsible for CS grammar realised that this could make the document ambiguous and that was the last thing you wanted unless you were drafting for a minister then you would need all the ambiguity you could find. I once wrote a statement to be read in the House of Lords and the minister's secretary said it was absolutely fine but could I remove the commas. His Lordship will either understand it and read it correctly or if he doesn't he'll just have to draw breath and the listeners can draw their own conclusions. Steve -----Original Message----- From: ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: 08 July 2013 11:50 To: ebooktalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ebooktalk] Re: Grammar Question Hi Everyone I hate putting apostrophes in the wrong place, and I will go out of my way to change a sentence so that I don't have to use one if I am in any doubt. So, can one of you learned people advise me. As some of you know, I compile the BBC Radio 4 Extra programme listings each week and send them to a list. I usually start the message "Below is the schedule for next week" or "Below are the listings for next week". If I wrote Below is next weeks schedule" or Below are next week's listings" should there be an apostrophe after "week"? At work they wanted such things removed. Pele