[duxuser] Re: braille standards
- From: "Francis E. Khan" <fekhan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:28:59 -0400
Hello George:
Is there some sort of encyclopedia that one could turn to to use MsWord
properly? I remember when we used WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS, I had purchased
a similar book for the office and everybody used it.
I too emphasize to my students the need to use the appropriate styles in the
print documents so that the Braille formatting would be less troublesome and
a "Word Bible" would be a handy tool. At this time, however, my former
employers at the bank where I worked have retained my services on contract
to teach the sighted folks how to use Word and Excel properly and to let the
computer do the work as opposed to using it like a glorified typewriter.
Francis Khan
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: braille standards
> Yes Ann,
>
> It's the appropriate Word Processor Operators manual - which nobody every
> [expletive omitted] well reads.
>
> I have just been involved in producing a fairly hefty Word document of a
> mere 80 pages, and have spent more hours than I care to mention re-styling
> it.
>
> A message which I am trying desperately to get across to people is that
> literally millions of hours are being wasted word-wide, simply because
> people do not know - or in fairness, have never been trained - to use
their
> system properly.
>
> This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Braille production, and is actually
> costing employers serious money. That's the message we need to get
across.
> Money out of the employer's pocket.
>
> The problem is that most employers don't know how to use the software
> themselves, and moreover can't see that even a days basic training could
> save them money in an extremely short space of time.
>
> But as you and I know, the spin off for us is that if programs like Word
> were being used even half properly, our job would be far, far easier.
That
> would also save a lot of the costs in producing braille. (Which everyone
> complains is way too high!)
>
> For example, I regularly see hard carriage returns being used to force a
new
> page, as opposed to using Ctrl + Return.
>
> I see Tabs being used to indent paragraphs, rather than simply adjusting
> margins.
>
> I see hand typed Tables of Contents because users don't know how to use
> Heading Styles to automatically generate them.
>
> Rant over for just now. I need a cold beer.
>
> George Bell.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Foxworth, Ann
> Sent: 24 November 2003 22:00
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] braille standards
>
> Do any of you know of a current publication outlining standards for
> formatting documents to make them "braille-friendly"?
>
> Ann Foxworth, Computer Braille Specialist Texas Commission for the Blind
> 4800 N. Lamar BLVD Suite # 130 Austin, TX 78756
> PH: (512) 377-0654
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