[duxuser] Re: braille standards

  • From: "Francis E. Khan" <fekhan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:30:51 -0400

Hi George:

Thanks for the information.  I will make inquiries of the MicroSoft Press
about the book and will also ask them whether this publication can be sold
as an E-book.  What a godsend that would be! ! !

Francis Khan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:21 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: braille standards


> Hi Francis,
>
> I don't know if it is still available, but I found an excellent print book
in the "Running" series called, "Running Microsoft Word 2000".  (ISBN
1-57231-943-7 from Microsoft Press)  It costs $39.99 (recommended) and is
worth every one of its 920 odd pages.
>
> It's not necessarily the kind of book you read from cover to cover, but is
something every office should have as a reference book.
>
> Having said that, I believe anyone involved in training or typing
supervision, should study the first three chapters in detail.  Word Basics,
Writing and Editing Tools, and Formatting Tools.
>
>
> George Bell
> Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francis E. Khan [mailto:fekhan@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 25 November 2003 20:29
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: braille standards
>
> Hello George:
>
> Is there some sort of encyclopedia that one could turn to to use MsWord
properly?  I remember when we used WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS, I had purchased
a similar book for the office and everybody used it.
>
> I too emphasize to my students the need to use the appropriate styles in
the print documents so that the Braille formatting would be less troublesome
and a "Word Bible" would be a handy tool.  At this time, however, my former
employers at the bank where I worked have retained my services on contract
to teach the sighted folks how to use Word and Excel properly and to let the
computer do the work as opposed to using it like a glorified typewriter.
>
> Francis Khan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:10 PM
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: braille standards
>
>
> > Yes Ann,
> >
> > It's the appropriate Word Processor Operators manual - which nobody
every
> > [expletive omitted] well reads.
> >
> > I have just been involved in producing a fairly hefty Word document of a
> > mere 80 pages, and have spent more hours than I care to mention
re-styling
> > it.
> >
> > A message which I am trying desperately to get across to people is that
> > literally millions of hours are being wasted word-wide, simply because
> > people do not know - or in fairness, have never been trained - to use
> their
> > system properly.
> >
> > This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Braille production, and is
actually
> > costing employers serious money.  That's the message we need to get
> across.
> > Money out of the employer's pocket.
> >
> > The problem is that most employers don't know how to use the software
> > themselves, and moreover can't see that even a days basic training could
> > save them money in an extremely short space of time.
> >
> > But as you and I know, the spin off for us is that if programs like Word
> > were being used even half properly, our job would be far, far easier.
> That
> > would also save a lot of the costs in producing braille.  (Which
everyone
> > complains is way too high!)
> >
> > For example, I regularly see hard carriage returns being used to force a
> new
> > page, as opposed to using Ctrl + Return.
> >
> > I see Tabs being used to indent paragraphs, rather than simply adjusting
> > margins.
> >
> > I see hand typed Tables of Contents because users don't know how to use
> > Heading Styles to automatically generate them.
> >
> > Rant over for just now.  I need a cold beer.
> >
> > George Bell.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Foxworth, Ann
> > Sent: 24 November 2003 22:00
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] braille standards
> >
> > Do any of you know of a current publication outlining standards for
> > formatting documents to make them "braille-friendly"?
> >
> > Ann Foxworth, Computer Braille Specialist Texas Commission for the Blind
> > 4800 N. Lamar BLVD Suite # 130 Austin, TX 78756
> > PH: (512) 377-0654
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