[duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

  • From: Susan <chrn3292@xxxxxxx>
  • To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:42:12 -0600


I'm not disputing there are other sizes of paper in use ... I can only 
comment about what I know in the US and those particular parameters work 
well here.

What it boils down to, is those of you who are using different size 
paper, what size does that folded paper need to be to get into your 
envelopes? Envelope sizes around the world are just as much of an issue 
as paper size.


George Bell wrote on 3/28/2006, 1:13 PM:

Yes, Susan, but what about those of us in Europe who use 12 inch deep 
paper which can hold up to 29 Lines?

Or even David on this list who uses 13 inch deep paper.

I know it's a difficult concept, but there is life outside of North 
America. (smile)


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
Sent: 28 March 2006 18:25
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Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

FWIW, MegaDots uses a line of dots 2-5 across braille lines 9 and 18 and 
with 8-1/2" width paper fits a business envelope perfectly.


Peter Sullivan wrote on 3/28/2006, 10:45 AM:


We are looking to avoid alogrithms that produce three different sizes of 
section. We're aiming instead for an alogrithm that, regardless of the 
number of folds, will produce sections of at most two different sizes.

There seems to be some disagreement about how to distribute the larger 
and smaller sections, when the sections aren't all of the same size.

Mike is looking for a way to make this something that the end user can 
set. So far, we have two preferences:

1. Put the larger section(s) first -- the smaller section(s) following. 
2. Put the smaller section(s) first -- the larger section(s) following.

So far, nobody has requested the larger or smaller section(s) be placed 
in the middle. This is good -- the fewer variations there are in 
preference, the more easily we can understand and adapt to them.

However, let me point out a wrinkle that nobody else has pointed out so far.

If you have an even number of sections greater than two --perhaps 
because you've requested three fold lines (thus four sections) -- I 
posit that you would want, if possible, to have the fold lines arranged 
symmetrically on the page. This would make it possible to fold once down 
the middle, and once again at the now-coincident remaining fold lines.

We wouldn't get this by putting the larger fold section(s) consistently 
at the top or at the bottom. A recursive algorithm is necessary to 
manage such a case well.

All of which is to beg your patience -- and that of others -- as we try 
to tease out a specification on this one. We've put our thinking caps on 

- Peter

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[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:15 AM
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Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

Correct, I would want the largest section to be at the top of the page. 
Ideally, I would want the smallest section to be at the bottom of the 
page. This would produce a page that has the first line or so outside of 
the folded section, and still have a neat fold.

If the algorithm produces 3 different size sections, I would want the 
largest at the top, and the smallest at the bottom. If there are 2 equal 
size sections, and 1 larger section, I would want the larger section at 
the top. If there are 2 equal size sections, and 1 smaller section, I 
would want the smaller section at the bottom.

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