David, At this point, I don't expect that there will be substantial further improvements to how DBT handles mixtures of italicized and non-italicized text, or italic markings around symbols -- at least not until next time. I have brought this particular matter to Joe's attention, so he is aware of it. Generally, we don't assign translation problems reference numbers, but simply keep a note of them with each language translation table project. Best Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Spybey Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Strange file containing brackets Peter Most of the material that I prepare starts off as a print file for our partially sighted pupils and it is usually in large print and bold. I sometimes forget unbold the whole document before translating it hence the bold version of the file I got the strange results with. As a rule I would expect all the bold and other unnecessary emphasis marking to be removed as it is not helpful to the Braille reader. In the file I sent I can see that the capital A is in italics but I would still not expect to get what is happening but rather 7.,a7 Whilst I might prefer it to have no italic sign at all I would not expect DBT to understand my preference if I am perverse enough to ask it to translate a file that I have provided with italics in it! There is clearly something peculiar about the files I sent but I cannot see what it is. David Spybey -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan Sent: 08 May 2006 19:36 To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents David, Thanks for sending the .tex files (off-list). As you mentioned, these aren't really necessary to my analysis, because the problem shows up also (or perhaps exclusively) when importing from Word. I'm now puzzled about what you want in the translation in this case. You mention that you would expect (A) to be: 7;,a7 Does that mean that you expect emphasis markings to be ignored in this case? - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Spybey Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 4:34 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents Peter The file that caused the problem is attached. However I need to amend what I have said slightly. I used Word2Tex, as I usually do, to change the file into a .tex file that SN will read. I did not check the SN file before using DBT and got the result I mentioned. Looking more closely at the WORD original the A was italic not the closing bracket. In SN this came out as the opening bracket in text the A and the closing bracket in Math and hence the result I got in DBT. I should have spotted this fact so apologies for giving a false impression of the problem. I was going into SN because of all the mathematics that was in the WORD file in MathType and the route I follow gets that into reasonable braille mathematics. However, if you ignore the mathematics issues and just got straight into DBT from the files I have attached the The results of going straight into DBT The version with (A) in bold gives 7..,a.'.17.' And the version witgh (A) in non bold gives .7.,a.17.' Whereas I would expect (A) to be 7;,a7 as happens in other files. So there must be something rather peculiar about the two WORD files that I have attached. I have looked at them but cannot see what would cause such peculiar results. David -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan Sent: 04 May 2006 16:56 To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents David, Do you have a sample file in the format from which you started (e.g. Word, Scientific Notebook, text, or HTML)? - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Spybey Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 3:02 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in documents Peter It is strange how mistakes show up errors! I have just had (A) translated as 7,a> rather than 7,a7 I could not understand why until I realised that the closing bracket was in italics by mistake. However I am not sure why DBT translated this as it did. 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