----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > Jack, > > I've been focusing instead on making it possible to emboss the online help. > It does appear that nobody has tried that; for, if you had, you'd find that > it hasn't been working. It will be working for beta 4. > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:03 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > And fine help files they are. I think it would be good for the on-line help > to be put in a series of .dxp files to compliment the .chm files. Don thinks > Windows perhaps even 98 ships with a utility to convert .chm to html files, > which could then be saved as text. In my experience, having both > downloadable and on-line help do rather compliment each other. The problem > with the on-line help, and no reflection on George, is acidentally exitting > the help program and trying to find my place again. I'm thinking this > shouldn't be difficult as the end result has to be compiled into .chm files. > > Thanks > Jack > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:33 AM > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > Jack, > > > > George has been writing the help. He's done a fabulous job. At the same > > time, this means that things are unlikely to be documented until George > > understands them (and he does understand this now) and is satisfied that > he > > won't push for further change (the jury is still out in that regard). > > > > Once George is happy with his understanding and our implementation then > > things like this are sure to be documented. > > > > - Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:58 PM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > Can we documentthis, in help. It may seem strange, but it makes a kind of > > sense after you repeat the exercise. My guess is that unless DBT is > > networked, most of us probably wouldn't have more than two anyway. Are > > printers mutually exclusive, and can you make DBT think a embosser is a > > printer, or vise vers, based on port settings. > > > > Jack > > > > a > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:50 AM > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > Jack, > > > > > > If you delete all embossers, but don't create a new one, you cannot get > > out > > > of the remaining dialog using OK -- you must use Cancel. When you use > > > Cancel, DBT won't save any changes, including the removal, addition, or > > > modification of any embosser configurations. > > > > > > George, Ian, and I have been dicussing this issue for some time now. > > George > > > maintains that the way it works will be confusing to people. Your > report > > > seems to bear out his point of view. But there are problems that will > > arise > > > however we might modify this behavior, so I've been disinclined to make > a > > > change. > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > On > > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:33 PM > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > I don't know, as it is the only system I have. I'll have to re-install > > > everything, and then try again, or some upt the courage to delete the > > > entries via regedit. I am reluctant to do this, as if the system doesn't > > > boot, I don't have a monitor, let alone requisite help--well who needs a > > > monitor anyway!! Perhaps this is not even a win98 issue. You can delete > > all > > > embossers, but when you re-initialize DBT they're all still there. > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:21 AM > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > Jack, > > > > > > > > I've been hearing about some trouble removing embossers; I perhaps > > hadn't > > > > picked up the detail that this is with Windows 98 specifically. > > > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On > > > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:22 PM > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > Will do. > > > > > > > > Did I mention it seems impossible to delete embossers under win98. I > > don't > > > > know what implications this has, as I haven't one. > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:41 AM > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jack, > > > > > > > > > > Open a file in Word. For safety, do a File: Save As and save it as > > > > > something else. Having done that, go to Tools, Options, select the > > > > > Security Tab where you can give it a memorable password. Close the > > > > > file, and re-open it again, to prove to yourself that it does > actually > > > > > require a password. > > > > > > > > > > You should now be able to try whatever you want with the file. > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > On Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > > > Sent: 01 June 2004 05:52 > > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to have to bone up on Ms-Word and Swift before I can do > this > > > > > adequately. With regard to the help files, is there anything in > > > > > particular, you want me to look for? > > > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:08 AM > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is getting quite intriguing. Any other Beta testers tried > this > > > > > > yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > If I try to open a password protected Word 2003 document in any of > > my > > > > > > three flavours of DBT, I get a 714 error. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, if I open the document in Word, and then use the current > > > > > > version of SWIFT (The one which maintains multiple .mws files) it > > > > > comes > > > > > > into DBT OK, which is, to a large extent, what I would expect, or > at > > > > > > least hope for. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why YOU have the problem is a mystery. (And bear in mind I have > the > > > > > > advantage of an XP Home and Pro system, side by side here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > What I guess we might also have to look at (but after 10.5 > please!) > > is > > > > > > The Information Rights Management Service. That should give > > > > > programmers > > > > > > a mild migraine. > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 14:59 > > > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George, > > > > > > > > > > > > I only get "Error 714" if the document is sent to DBT via SWIFT. > > When > > > > > > using DBTs File Open dialogue, the application hangs. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW: "Error 714" is a DBT message. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:18 PM > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just tried it here with XP Professional and Home, and > > Office > > > > > > > 2003. I've also used DBT 10.4, current Beta, and the untested > > > > > > autobuild > > > > > > > of 28th May, and in all cases I get the same result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After displaying DBT's normal import dialog, where it correctly > > > > > > > identifies File Type, I get "Error Message 714" pop up, but DBT > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > hang or such like. Nothing appears in the error logs. > Trawled > > > > > the > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > KB to no avail, and even googled with no success, so I hope it's > a > > > > > DBT > > > > > > > error message, which can be rephrased to be something more > > > > > meaningful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised you didn't find the word "password" in Help. > > Not > > > > > > only > > > > > > > has the indexing not been completed yet, but the word doesn't > > exist > > > > > > > anywhere in the text. Got any ideas for a topic that should > > include > > > > > > > "password"? (Smile) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 11:47 > > > > > > > To: List DBTBeta > > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This isn't strictly a beta issue as I can replicate it with > 10.4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to open a password protected Word document causes DBT to > > > > > hang. > > > > > > > The title bar is visible to JAWS, but the application is not > > > > > > responding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to close DBT caused Windows XP to display the "This > program > > > > > is > > > > > > > not responding" dialogue. 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