Hi George, If I'd known you were going to write that answer, I could have saved myself the trouble. <smile> If I've understood your message correctly, then we are thinking on broadly the same lines. Cheers. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > Hi Peter, > > My comments are based on the GLOBAL: Embosser Setup and 8th June > untested build. > > > 1. When a New configuration is created, should it be selected in the > list automatically? > > Yes, but only for the purposes of making changes to Lines, Characters, > margin, etc..! Since the newly added configuration is not selected by > default, there is a very serious danger that a user may make changes to > the wrong configuration. (And get murdered by his or her boss!) > > But also remember, by simply moving focus to a specific configuration in > GLOBAL Embosser setup, THAT becomes the default configuration when you > create a new document. So when the new configuration IS correctly > selected and amended, unless the user changes the selection, THAT > becomes the default. > > Personally speaking, I would like to see a "Default" configuration > appropriately marked "(Default)" in the list. (and stored in the > Registry). > > Then, similar to adding a printer in Windows, you are asked, "Do you > wish to make XXX your default configuration for all new documents?" > > > 2. When a configuration is deleted, should another configuration be > selected? If so, which? > > If the suggestion above was implemented, select the Default. If the > Default is selected for deletion, two dialogs:- > 1) You are about to delete the Default configuration XXX, are you sure > you want to do this?" > 2) You have deleted the default configuration, you must now select a > new default. > > > 3. Should configuration changes be made permanent even if Cancel is > used in the "Global, Embosser Setup" or "Document, Embosser Setup" > dialog? > > (Tries to think cautiously!) > > I'd say "No" here, on the basis that if changes are made, the user is > (or should be) asked to confirm changes anyway. > > George. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan > > Sent: 07 June 2004 20:01 > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > Ian, > > > > The confusion of course may be alleviated. I pose the > > following questions: > > > > 1. When a New configuration is created, should it be selected > > in the list automatically? > > 2. When a configuration is deleted, should another > > configuration be selected? If so, which? > > 3. Should configuration changes be made permanent even if > > Cancel is used in the "Global, Embosser Setup" or "Document, > > Embosser Setup" dialog? > > > > On that third question, I urge caution before jumping in with > > a "Yes". The reason that I urge caution is that making the > > configuration changes permanent, while rejecting other > > changes in the dialog, could leave us with the choice of > > having DBT issue a "This won't fit" warning when Cancel is > > used for the dialog or having DBT ignore the "This won't fit" > > message until a document is embossed. In either case, if a > > configuration change results in a "This won't fit" situation, > > the user who Cancels out of the outermost dialog may be > > confused by this. > > > > - Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:45 PM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > Hi Peter, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > Yes, I was getting confused. Mind you, I think others will > > too when DBT goes public. Good luck to George with the Help > > files. <smile> > > > > Cheers. > > > > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:29 PM > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > > > > Ian, > > > > > > I agree that this might be confusing. > > > > > > But your analysis is also confused. You aren't changing > > the settings > > > "for the wrong setup". The settings in the dialog you are > > operating > > > at this point are constrained by, but are in no way > > affiliated with, > > > the selected configuration. That is, your job in this dialog is to > > > choose a configuration and choose document settings that > > are compatible with it. > > The > > > document settings don't affect the configuration. > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > On > > > Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:35 AM > > > To: List DBTBeta > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Embosser setup confusion > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > using Beta 3, Build Date: 24 May 2004. > > > > > > I'm just wondering if anyone else has got confused by the Embosser > > > setup dialogue. > > > > > > 1. Choose Embosser Setup from either the Global or Document menus. > > > > > > 2. Press the New button and enter a setup name. > > > > > > 3. Choose an embosser, then press the OK button. > > > > > > 4. Control returns to the Setup dialogue, with the focus on the New > > button. > > > > > > at which point, the instinctive thing to do, is to tab through the > > > rest of the dialogue setting the lines per page etc. > > Unfortunately, > > > the selected setup is not the one just created, but the one > > that was > > > selected when the New button was pressed. > > > > > > Put simply, the instinctive thing to do is change the > > settings for the > > wrong > > > setup! > > > > > > Maybe it is more obvious to sighted users that the settings > > are about > > > to > > be > > > changed for the wrong setup, but for speech users I reckon > > it is too > > > easy > > to > > > make a mistake. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > > > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > > > * unsubscribe > > > * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. 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