Hi Peter: On this issue, I had trouble deleting configurations, as I think I mentioned before. I even set up different configurations, but was unable to remove any. As there is a lot written on the list, I will try to review it all concommitantly with the help provided in DBT, although I think poor old over-worked George is still addressing this. Cheers Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:24 AM Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > George, Ian, and All, > > Currently, there is no concept of a "default configuration". How would I go > about adding such a concept? > > Moreover -- I'll say it again -- nothing that you change outside of the > three-tabbed dialog affects the configuration. So there is no "danger of > making a change to the wrong configuration." There is indeed not the > slightest possibilty of making a change to any configuration at this point > -- not even if you want to. > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of George Bell > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:19 AM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > Then I'm glad you didn't know I was writing that, Ian. (Smile) > > At least we have come to the same conclusions pretty much independently. > > George. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > Sent: 08 June 2004 11:15 > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > Hi George, > > > > If I'd known you were going to write that answer, I could have saved > > myself the trouble. <smile> > > > > If I've understood your message correctly, then we are thinking on > > broadly the same lines. > > > > Cheers. > > > > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:07 AM > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > > > > Hi Peter, > > > > > > My comments are based on the GLOBAL: Embosser Setup and 8th June > > > untested build. > > > > > > > 1. When a New configuration is created, should it be > > selected in the > > > list automatically? > > > > > > Yes, but only for the purposes of making changes to Lines, > > Characters, > > > margin, etc..! Since the newly added configuration is not > > selected by > > > default, there is a very serious danger that a user may > > make changes to > > > the wrong configuration. (And get murdered by his or her boss!) > > > > > > But also remember, by simply moving focus to a specific > > configuration in > > > GLOBAL Embosser setup, THAT becomes the default > > configuration when you > > > create a new document. So when the new configuration IS correctly > > > selected and amended, unless the user changes the selection, THAT > > > becomes the default. > > > > > > Personally speaking, I would like to see a "Default" configuration > > > appropriately marked "(Default)" in the list. (and stored in the > > > Registry). > > > > > > Then, similar to adding a printer in Windows, you are asked, "Do you > > > wish to make XXX your default configuration for all new documents?" > > > > > > > 2. When a configuration is deleted, should another > > configuration be > > > selected? If so, which? > > > > > > If the suggestion above was implemented, select the Default. If the > > > Default is selected for deletion, two dialogs:- > > > 1) You are about to delete the Default configuration XXX, > > are you sure > > > you want to do this?" > > > 2) You have deleted the default configuration, you must > > now select a > > > new default. > > > > > > > 3. Should configuration changes be made permanent even if > > Cancel is > > > used in the "Global, Embosser Setup" or "Document, Embosser Setup" > > > dialog? > > > > > > (Tries to think cautiously!) > > > > > > I'd say "No" here, on the basis that if changes are made, > > the user is > > > (or should be) asked to confirm changes anyway. > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan > > > > Sent: 07 June 2004 20:01 > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > > > > > Ian, > > > > > > > > The confusion of course may be alleviated. I pose the following > > > > questions: > > > > > > > > 1. When a New configuration is created, should it be selected in > > > > the list automatically? > > > > 2. When a configuration is deleted, should another configuration > > > > be selected? If so, which? > > > > 3. Should configuration changes be made permanent even if Cancel > > > > is used in the "Global, Embosser Setup" or "Document, Embosser > > > > Setup" dialog? > > > > > > > > On that third question, I urge caution before jumping in with a > > > > "Yes". The reason that I urge caution is that making the > > > > configuration changes permanent, while rejecting other changes in > > > > the dialog, could leave us with the choice of having DBT issue a > > > > "This won't fit" warning when Cancel is used for the dialog or > > > > having DBT ignore the "This won't fit" > > > > message until a document is embossed. In either case, if a > > > > configuration change results in a "This won't fit" situation, the > > > > user who Cancels out of the outermost dialog may be confused by > > > > this. > > > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:45 PM > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > > > > > Hi Peter, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > Yes, I was getting confused. Mind you, I think others will too > > > > when DBT goes public. Good luck to George with the Help files. > > > > <smile> > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:29 PM > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup confusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian, > > > > > > > > > > I agree that this might be confusing. > > > > > > > > > > But your analysis is also confused. You aren't changing > > > > the settings > > > > > "for the wrong setup". The settings in the dialog you are > > > > operating > > > > > at this point are constrained by, but are in no way > > > > affiliated with, > > > > > the selected configuration. That is, your job in this > > dialog is to > > > > > choose a configuration and choose document settings that > > > > are compatible with it. > > > > The > > > > > document settings don't affect the configuration. > > > > > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:35 AM > > > > > To: List DBTBeta > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Embosser setup confusion > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > using Beta 3, Build Date: 24 May 2004. > > > > > > > > > > I'm just wondering if anyone else has got confused by > > the Embosser > > > > > setup dialogue. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Choose Embosser Setup from either the Global or > > Document menus. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Press the New button and enter a setup name. > > > > > > > > > > 3. Choose an embosser, then press the OK button. > > > > > > > > > > 4. Control returns to the Setup dialogue, with the > > focus on the New > > > > button. > > > > > > > > > > at which point, the instinctive thing to do, is to tab > > through the > > > > > rest of the dialogue setting the lines per page etc. > > > > Unfortunately, > > > > > the selected setup is not the one just created, but the one > > > > that was > > > > > selected when the New button was pressed. > > > > > > > > > > Put simply, the instinctive thing to do is change the > > > > settings for the > > > > wrong > > > > > setup! > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it is more obvious to sighted users that the settings > > > > are about > > > > > to > > > > be > > > > > changed for the wrong setup, but for speech users I reckon > > > > it is too > > > > > easy > > > > to > > > > > make a mistake. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > > > > > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > > > > > * unsubscribe > > > > > * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. > > You may also > > > > > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other > > > > subscription > > > > > * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. 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