[duxhelp] Re: DBT Beta:templates missing
- From: Joe Sullivan <joe@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: DBT Beta <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:55:50 -0500
Hi David & other beta testers,
The expected four options are actually there in the sense that you
can obtain any combination of old and new rules, and with and without
caps. (There's even a useless fifth option, which I will come to.)
However, as far as templates are concerned, since those come into
play only when starting a new file (as contrasted with doing more
work with an existing .dxp file), and we assume that users will
almost certainly want to use the new rules in that circumstance, we
have only provided two templates to cover the caps/no caps option
with the new rules. If you want to start a new file and for some
reason want to use the old rules, just pick the appropriate template
as to the caps/no caps option and then go to the Document /
Translation table menu and choose the "English/British (pre-2005
rules) with Capitals" table. You should make that choice even if you
used the "no capitals in literary" template -- because the
capitalization level setting in the template (specifically, the
[caplv1] or [caplv3] command in the "initial" style) is what really
counts for purposes of suppressing the capitals in the literary
portion of the text.
What may cause understandable confusion is the presence of the
"English/British (pre-2005 rules) without any capitals" item on the
Document / Translation tables menu. With that selection, you get no
capitals in any portion of the text, not even in mathematics. We
have come to understand, however, that capitals are normally wanted
in math even when they are being suppressed in the literary text --
and so an option to suppress all capitals everywhere is essentially
useless and should normally not be selected without a very special
reason. On the other hand, some .dxp files created using DBT 10.4 or
older, and which in fact contained only literary text, do suppress
capitals by using this table option rather than via the [caplv1]
command that was introduced in DBT 10.5. If we were to remove the
option from the Translation Tables menu, and such files were
re-translated using the new DBT, then by default they would suddenly
show capitals, which would cause another kind of confusion.
Despite this latter potential problem, which I suspect would be rare,
I have been tempted and am still tempted to remove the "without any
capitals" table option from the Translation Table menu and the words
"with Capitals" from the other "pre-2005" setting. That way, I think
it would be clearer that the table selection is no longer the way to
control capitals -- the [caplv...] command is the appropriate tool
for that, usually set in the "initial" style of the template that you
use. I'll be glad to hear any and all opinions about this.
Regards,
Joe Sullivan
Subject: RE: DBT Beta:templates missing
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:34:53 -0000
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From: "David Spybey" <dspybey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: david@xxxxxxxxxx
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Peter
In 10.5 there are 4 options to open a 'British/English' file. In 10.6
there seems to be only 2. Once in a document there appear to be only 3
options for translating and not the expected 4.
David Spybey
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