Hello all, I would prefer to leave "wide paper" embosser as default. Even you emboss a narrow paper document, text would emboss only between the setup parameters leaving the extra space on wider paper blank. If one chooses to emboss on a narrow paper, what is needed is to change the paper it self from wide to small so that "sticky document" embosses accordingly. When I want emboss a document on 11 by 8.5 size paper, I just physically change the paper by leaving "wide paper" embosser as a default. That has been the case with 10.5 and it works just fine. I hope that helps. Regards, Tesfaye -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf of Peter Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 11:34 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Hello Tesfaye, Thanks for the kind words. Encouragement is helpful. Over breakfast, I had some second thoughts about just implementing what you suggest. This would make it hard for a user who wants to create documents for both wide and narrow paper, for example. It was for this need that we were working on "embosser sticky" settings in the first place. Consider how this must be done now (and if we re-revise DBT 10.6). Let's suppose that you have a "wide paper" embosser set as your default, but you want now to create a "narrow paper" document. I had thought that people who had this need with some frequency would just create a template targeting the "narrow paper embosser" with appropriate settings. This has proven to be a rather unpopular approach. However, the only other approaches are these: 1. Create the document. 2. Go to document, embosser setup and select the "narrow paper embosser", then (if necessary) choose the narrow paper size. Also set document settings as they should be. Or: 1. Go to Global Embosser Setup, choose the "narrow paper embosser", and (if necesssary) the narrow paper size. Set the document settings as they should be. 2. Create the document. 3. Return to Global Embosser Setup to restore global settings to what they were. With DBT 10.6 working as we've most recently discussed, we'll have streamlined steps 1 and 3 of the second process. But either process will remain cumbersome enough to cause confusion and complaints. So perhaps we should change two more things in DBT 10.6: 1. Stop recording embosser setup information in templates (or perhaps make this an option, set when the template is generated). 2. Add to the "New" and "Select Import Filter/Template" dialogs a control to choose the embosser target for the new document. The default would be as in Global, Embosser setup, but the end user could choose a different embosser. The new document will be created with the "sticky settings" for the selected embosser. Now, if a template does contain embosser format information itself, we could make "(Embosser Settings from Template)" the default choice. I do hate to add UI during the beta. But this would amount, I believe, to only three strings for the localizers. The new UI wouldn't make it easier to switch target embossers and settings for an existing DBT document. But it should make it much less common that anybody would want to do that. What you do (and others who've been interested enough to read this far) think? - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:32 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Thanks Peter. I must say since 10.5 versions, so many things gotten so much easier. I use to make so many trips to the embosser to make set up changes simply because the embossers use to control the system rather than the other way around. You have done wonderfully to this far at least for me. Regards, Tesfaye -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:07 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Tesfaye, It seems that most have been silent about your requested change; the one or two others from whom we've heard have been supportive. So I'll make it work as I think you'd like, viz: - Document setup will attempt to preserve document format preferences as they were when the user entered the dialog, or as they were last explicitly modified by the user, even as the user changes embossers. When format preferences aren't compatible with a newly-selected embosser, the dialog will change the format as little as possible. - In other words, the only user-interface reference to an embosser's "sticky format settings" will be in Global, Embosser Setup. Newly-created and newly-imported documents will use these settings (when created from a Duxbury-created template), but will do so without displaying any UI that makes reference to them. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:04 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Hello all, yes it does not consume more than 20 cells by 19 lines. However if you change embosser in Document, it will reformat it self 40 cells by 25 lines. My set up in global embosser is Briallo 40 cells by 25 lines (interpoint) Regards Tesfaye -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:56 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Tesfaye, It may be that the sticky settings for the referenced embosser are overriding those for the document. Would you please tell me what you see in Global, Embosser Setup when you open that dialog and choose "Braillo" from the list of embossers? Knowing this will presumably help my investigation. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:11 AM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Beta 3 has been posted Hi all, I download beta 3 this morning and noticed sticky set up no longer there. 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