[dungeoncrawl] Re: Tuesday morning thoughts

  • From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:43:46 US/Eastern

John, thanks for taking the time to 
start the discussion!  I agree, last 
night was great - to be honest, I'm 
still a bit messed up from my weekend, 
but the night itself was a bright point.

I think Kage summed up the irony of the 
situation best when he said of Tori, "I 
can't stand her!  She's so...grumpy!".

I also think the party did the best 
thing - after all, my own characters 
almost killed each other over the 
suggested solution.  Definitely went 
well...

>     Since we always discuss Damon's 
plots after we finish playing, there
> isn't a whole lot for me to say the 
next morning.  However, there are a
> few things we mentioned that I wanted 
to touch on again, and one
> revelation I had on the way home last 
night.
>     First of all, I thought last 
night went great!  I had a wonderful
> time, as I always do with the Sigil.  
The role-playing was a blast, as
> always, and I thought the combat was 
fun.  Nautical fighting is
> something we rarely do, and I thought 
last night had a very strong mood
> to it.  Perhaps I was reading into 
it, but I felt as though the
> characters were in a horror movie; 
you knew something bad was coming,
> but you didn't know what or from 
where.  Very effective.
>     I know the big debate last night 
was whether or not the plot had
> been contrived, and if Damon had 
forced the group to do certain things.
> I want to say again that I come down 
firmly on the side of the DM on
> this one; Damon put the characters in 
a position where there choices
> were limited, and I think the path 
they took was a sound one.  Should
> they have stayed on the island?  What 
sane person would have done that?
> There was no food, no water, and no 
place to go on the island.  Perhaps
> it's because I just saw Castaway this 
weekend, but the idea of staying
> on that tiny island was never an 
option for my characters.
>     Should we have allowed the kraken 
to tow the boat out to sea?  This
> is probably the only decision that 
could be considered contrived, but I
> stand by what Cullen suggested.  
First of all, the only way to stop the
> kraken was to destroy the anchor, 
which would have left the ship without
> an important piece of equipment.  
Second of all, everyone in the party
> had agreed that they had no idea how 
to sail a boat.  So, if they had
> removed the anchor, then what?  They 
couldn't very well sail away, as
> they didn't know how to do that.  
They also couldn't hope to find land,
> as they couldn't navigate (and didn't 
know where land was if they
> could).  At least the kraken had a 
destination in mind, and what
> adventurer wouldn't rather go out 
fighting a giant sea beast, rather
> than shriveling away from hunger and 
thirst?
>     Finally, should we have expedited 
the party's capture at the hands
> (fins?) of the sahaugin?  Again, why 
not?  Alturo could not Teleport the
> entire group due to weight 
restrictions, meaning some people would 
have
> been left behind.  By using Wind 
Walk, he would have allowed a few of
> them to travel quickly, but stuck at 
sea with no way to navigate, those
> people would have been dead, just a 
little slower.  If some of the group
> had left via Teleport, how would they 
have ever located those people
> left behind?  And if the party had 
destroyed all of their attackers,
> then what?  They would have been 
stuck in the middle of the ocean with
> no food, water or boat.  The sahaugin 
wanted them alive, since they were
> trying to capture rather than kill 
them, so they might as well find out
> why.
>     Anyway, by my calculation, Damon 
did a fine job.  He put the party
> in a crappy situation, but he didn't 
force them to do anything.  I think
> the Sigil did a great job, and I'm 
very excited to see where they end up
> next week.  I'm hoping for a visit to 
the Sahaugin underwater city, as I
> think that would be too cool!  Like 
the gungans in Episode I, but
> without the annoying specking voices.
>     By the way, I was thinking of the 
characters last night, and I
> suddenly realized why Tori and Kage 
dislike each other so much.  It's
> because they are so similar!  Sure, 
Tori is a little more on the good
> side, but both of them are pragmatic, 
stubborn and willing to do what it
> takes to get the job done.  Siblings 
separated at birth?
> 
> 
> 
> 



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