[dungeoncrawl] Re: Tuesday morning review
- From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:41:55 -0400
I was hoping that others might see the advantage in this.
Basically, I believe we currently have about 15 deities. I believe the
Forgotten Realms has closer to 30. Obviously not every character is deity
material, or interested in it, but it would be a way to slash the number of
playable characters we have, while giving our new world depth and interest.
Something to think on.
I was driving home last night, and like Damon, I was surprised by the fact
that I wanted to get rid of more characters. As much as I had a blast, I
suddenly realized that massive retirement might be our best option. It keeps
characters "in play", at least as NPCs, and clears our slate to do new things.
It also should result in our having a kick-ass campaign world, one we are
interested in developing, since we all have a stake in it. Just an idea...
I have tons of things in my head, and I will be sending out e-mails soon.
In the meantime, I attached the current master list of characters. It's one I
had for the Tiamat War, but I have kept it as current as possible. Check your
characters and see who you think might be good for our purposes.
Damon Kline wrote:
> I actually like that idea! I want a way to widdle down the number of
> characters that I have out there on the planes and some of those characters
> would make great deities. Off the top of my head, I could see Marcus taking
> some sort of deity role under Faceous and it would be cool since this was
> originally the world he was from along with Sinjen, D'alleva, Valeria, Opal
> and Nelik. On that note, I could see Sinjen taking some sort of role here.
> Once he regains his honor.
>
> Rikus would make a cool "Tempus-like" demi-power, even though he is only
> like 3rd level. :)
>
> Characters I don't see being deities would be possibly Krodo, Phelan,
> Erebus, Medean might make a cool god of illusions, but he would have to
> share it with Delusia.
>
> Anyway, there is much to discuss...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnathan Detrick [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:11 AM
> To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: Tuesday morning review
>
> I've been thinking of what to do with those characters as well. I
> hadn't
> thought of what you suggested; it might be interesting. Perhaps we could
> make
> some of them into important personages on that world; it would be a quick
> and
> easy way to gain NPCs.
> However, I was also thinking of making some extra people deities.
> Basically, what I would like to do is figure out how many deities we want in
> the
> pantheon. While I don't want to go crazy, I want to have enough so that the
> normal schmoe living on Planet Magnus (what, I'm sorry, was that name not
> approved by everyone?) has someone that they can turn to. The more deities
> we
> have, the richer mythology we can create. I'm not talking about everyone
> (although Jim had said Hiernymous had an interest at one time), but there
> might
> be some characters that they would "throw a bone" to, so to speak.
> Something to
> think about, and something we may want to consider as we talk this out.
>
> Damon Kline wrote:
>
> > I wholeheartedly agree on all points!!!! You would think that after
> having
> > played these characters for so long of a time, that it would be sad to see
> > them go. But I have to admit that I am very excited about where they are
> > and how they ended. I am very much looking forward to "starting anew"
> when
> > we start another campaign.
> >
> > I still have an interest in a few of my characters that are being held
> > captive by the Gods, but for the most part, I am much more interested in
> > starting new characters. I have some thoughts on what to do with those
> > characters out in the planes, but I'll save those for when we start
> talking
> > about it. Well, maybe I'll just throw something out there now so that I
> > don't forget about it.
> >
> > No need to respond to this now, it can be covered later, I just wanted to
> > say it before I forget it. Do you think that the Riders might invite
> some,
> > or all, of the people who participated in the Tiamat war to come and live
> on
> > their new world? I don't think they would offer them any type of power or
> > anything, but since they did help the Riders in fighting Tiamat, perhaps
> > they might offer to let them live a free life on the new world instead of
> > being stuck in servitude on some plane somewhere. Just a thought. It
> might
> > help us to provide some already known people to populate the world with.
> > They wouldn't get anything, it would basically be a "Hey, Sorrell, instead
> > of lounging around out there in that plane, why don't you come and live on
> > our new world?" She agrees and gets plane shifted to the new world and
> that
> > is the end of the deal. She is on her own from there. Anyway, like I
> said,
> > we can pick it up later.
> >
> > As for last night...Jim, awesome, awesome job!! I echo John's sentiments.
> > I had a blast. I felt challenged through the fight, but not overwhelmed.
> > It was dangerous, but not overly one-sided. If I had to pick a way for
> the
> > Riders to "go out" that would be it. I enjoyed the story the whole way
> > through and while there were times when I was like "What the hell is he
> > doing to us?", it was never in a bad way, more of a "I didn't see THAT
> > coming." kind of way.
> >
> > So anyway, it was a lot of fun and you ended it perfectly.
> >
> > Thanks for a wonderful time!!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johnathan Detrick [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:46 AM
> > To: Riders II
> > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Tuesday morning review
> >
> > As I mentioned before, I thought last night was awesome! Jim did a
> > great job, and the night was a blast. Let's recap.
> > The adventure to rescue Karvas and Saurotte was nice and not
> > contrived, yet it didn't take up too much of the night. I was a little
> > disappointed that we couldn't play that smaller group more because I
> > enjoyed them, but it would have been sheer folly on Jim's part to drag
> > that out. Instead he made it just the right length, and it was great.
> > As he has throughout this adventure, Jim kept me guessing the entire
> > night. I was not aware that the battle with the Black Legion was the
> > end of the adventure. I assumed there would be more beyond them.
> > Personally, I'm thrilled that he made them the climax. If the Riders
> > were going to end their careers as adventurers, what is more appropriate
> > than a final battle with their most hated foes? It was the perfect
> > capper for them, and bravo to Jim for using it as the endpiece.
> > I sensed that Jim felt he wasn't using the Black Legion to their
> > full potential last night, or that they were too easy. Considering he
> > killed five characters throughout the fight, I'm not sure why he felt
> > that way. The Black Legion was doing incredibly well. Damon made the
> > statement that they never attacked us en masse. Thank God! Personally,
> > I think Jim used them exceedingly well. By having them attack us in
> > waves it kept the group off balance. It also should be noted that two
> > or three of them at a time was more than sufficient to keep 11 members
> > of the Riders busy. It made it seem like Amrikol had a master plan, and
> > made him seem much more like a brilliant strategist than if he had used
> > his power and simply tried to pummel the Riders into paste.
> > If Jim shot himself in the foot anywhere, it was in killing so many
> > people in the adventures of the past few weeks. Because an average of
> > two characters per week were dying on adventures, Faceous had taken all
> > Resurrections at 7th level. This enabled him to continually replenish
> > the ranks of the Riders from the dead characters. If he had not done
> > that, the Riders would have been in a lot more trouble. They would have
> > survived, I think, but it would have been by the skin of their teeth.
> > Anyway, the fight was great. It moved quite quickly; for someone
> > that does not have as firm a grasp of the rules as he did in second
> > edition, Jim kept things moving so smoothly. And considering that all
> > of the players had more than one character, we moved quickly as well.
> > There was a palpable sense of danger the entire time, and death was
> > constantly present. I just can't say how much fun I thought it was.
> > The was the perfect mix of danger and excitement. I didn't feel
> > completely overwhelmed and I didn't feel like it was easy. It was
> > great.
> > One side note. Amrikol broke his Staff of Power in a retributive
> > strike. I was surprised as hell, and said as much. I think Jim thought
> > I was fighting him on it. I was not. The villains are allowed to
> > surprise me, and I am not privy to their thoughts. I was not trying to
> > challenge Jim's ruling; I was just surprised. No doubt that was
> > Amrikol's plan, as he probably assumed the Riders wouldn't think him
> > capable of doing that. In that respect, it worked brilliantly. But I
> > just wanted to make it clear I was not disagreeing with what Jim was
> > doing; I was just amazed he did it.
> >
> > I'll start sending out e-mail on the new gods and their world today
> > and through the week (expect them to start this afternoon). Jim did a
> > bang-up job, and here's a thank you from me!
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