[dungeoncrawl] Re: The end of an era

  • From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:19:40 -0400

    Only 77 more years of game time, and he'll be ready for play.  :)

Damon Kline wrote:

> I think Krymsin is around 2 or 3.  Probably 3.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnathan Detrick [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:14 PM
> To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The end of an era
>
>     I also plan on making Janson's son, Shakespeare, into a character
> down the road.  If Dennis' daughters are about 11 or 12, Shakespeare
> should be about 9.
>
> jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > That would be a lot of fun.  We could
> > shake things up, like I'd play Crimsin,
> > Matt would play an "old hand" like
> > Foster, and you would play one of
> > Dennis's daughters, or something.  It
> > would be neat to see where it leads.
> >
> > > Once the world is created, we could
> > even speed up time a bit and play the
> > > children of our former characters.
> > It would be cool if we revisited the
> > > world after 20 years or so and found
> > the children had grown up and had
> > > formed an adventuring band or
> > something like that.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002
> > 12:34 PM
> > > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The end
> > of an era
> > >
> > > I could see a super cool plot someday
> > > where we have new characters from
> > that
> > > world and they're sent on a quest to
> > > retrieve the kids.
> > >
> > > Or even if the kids are raised on the
> > > outer planes, they themselves might
> > > make neat characters.  Dennis's
> > > daughters have to be at least 10 by
> > > now, for example -
> > >
> > > >
> > > >     I hadn't even considered that
> > > Magnus now has nieces and nephews.  I
> > > > wonder how he will react to that.
> > > >     I also wonder what will happen
> > to
> > > some of the children as their
> > > > parents become deities.
> > > >     I also wanted to mention to
> > > everyone not to forget Mileena as
> > > > someone that could easily grasp
> > power
> > > for herself.  She's certainly one
> > > > to watch.
> > > >
> > > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In her current mood, she'd
> > probably
> > > be
> > > > > just fine with that. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > But you reminded me of something -
> >
> > > with
> > > > > what we found out last time,
> > Dennis
> > > is
> > > > > Magnus's brother in law, and their
> > > > > three kids are his nephew and
> > > nieces...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Baish wants to bang her, just to
> > > > > complete the circle of sleeping
> > with
> > > > > every
> > > > > > female that Magnus is related to
> > > > > either through blood or
> > > marriage.  :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09,
> > 2002
> > > > > 11:46 AM
> > > > > > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The
> > > end
> > > > > of an era
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On another note, did the
> > > revelations
> > > > > > last time about Celane change
> > > > > anyone's
> > > > > > opinion of the character?  Do
> > you
> > > see
> > > > > > any PCs treating her
> > differently
> > > as a
> > > > > > result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Yes, it could make things
> > > > > > interesting.  It might also be
> > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > to see if someone that
> > doesn't
> > > want
> > > > > > the power receives it.  Let's
> > say
> > > > > > > Nadan gets it.  Might his
> > > > > > subconscious influence the way
> > he
> > > > > > creates a
> > > > > > > world?  Perhaps he makes elves
> > > > > > superior, drow their slaves, and
> > > > > dwarves
> > > > > > > a dying race.  That could be
> > > > > > interesting.
> > > > > > >     There's a lot of very
> > > > > interesting
> > > > > > ideas here.  I think everyone
> > > > > > > might be surprised by how
> > Magnus
> > > > > > reacts to things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I kind of feel like we're
> > > > > > > > doing "experimental" D&D,
> > like
> > > > > 70s
> > > > > > rock
> > > > > > > > and roll or something.  I
> > > mean,
> > > > > if I
> > > > > > > > was actually a character in
> > > this
> > > > > > > > adventure, I'd be figuring
> > out
> > > > > who
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > real friends were really
> > > quick and
> > > > > > > > deciding what to do next.
> > > Let's
> > > > > > say I
> > > > > > > > was lawful good - I'd pow-
> > wow
> > > with
> > > > > > > > Gadget and Faceus and
> > figure
> > > out
> > > > > > how to
> > > > > > > > pull the rug out from under
> > > > > Magnus.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As DM, I won't obstruct or
> > > help
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > certain character - I hope
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > understands when I say that
> > > there
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be serious opposition
> > against
> > > the
> > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > (not necessarily the Black
> > > > > Legion),
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > that any current PC or NPC
> > > could
> > > > > > end up
> > > > > > > > with the power through sheer
> > > > > > attrition.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It would also help us
> > define
> > > the
> > > > > > > > pantheon - if Magnus and
> > > Dennis
> > > > > are
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > longer friends because
> > Magnus
> > > > > kills
> > > > > > > > Celane, or if Baish and
> > Gadget
> > > > > > become
> > > > > > > > bitter enemies, so much the
> > > > > better -
> > > > > >  it
> > > > > > > > will spice up the pantheon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     I thought I would
> > start
> > > a
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > > list, since the last one was
> > > > > > getting a
> > > > > > > > > tad long.
> > > > > > > > >     Jim, you have renewed
> > my
> > > > > > interest
> > > > > > > > in this plot, and hopefully
> > > > > > > > > Damon's as well.
> > > Basically, the
> > > > > > > > question of whether or not
> > the
> > > > > > > > > characters will succeed
> > is a
> > > > > moot
> > > > > > > > one.  Jim has said we will,
> > > but
> > > > > > > > > honestly, even if he
> > hadn't
> > > > > said
> > > > > > it,
> > > > > > > > of course the characters
> > would
> > > > > > > > > succeed.  I understand
> > what
> > > > > Damon
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > saying in his e-mail, but we
> > > > > > > > > always know the
> > characters
> > > will
> > > > > > > > succeed.  How many times
> > have
> > > we
> > > > > > failed,
> > > > > > > > > in any campaign?  Sure,
> > we
> > > lose
> > > > > > > > battles, but how often do
> > we
> > > lose
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > war?  All Jim really did
> > was
> > > > > > > > verbalize it.
> > > > > > > > >     So the question now
> > is,
> > > how
> > > > > > well
> > > > > > > > will the party succeed?
> > > Whosoever
> > > > > > > > > grasps the power controls
> > > the
> > > > > > > > destiny.  That's a pretty
> > tall
> > > > > > order.
> > > > > > > > > Will one of the Riders
> > > > > succeed?
> > > > > > Will
> > > > > > > > one of the Black Legion?
> > > Celane?
> > > > > > > > > How will Magnus' world
> > > differ
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > Quasit's?  Escrima's?
> > > Gadget's?
> > > > > > > > > Will the party turn
> > against
> > > each
> > > > > > > > other to claim the power?
> > In
> > > my
> > > > > > > > > opinion, the question of
> > > how the
> > > > > > > > adventure will end, and who
> > > will
> > > > > > > > > imprint the world with
> > their
> > > > > > desires,
> > > > > > > > is infinitely more
> > interesting
> > > > > > > > > than whether or not the
> > > group
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > succeed at all.  Hopefully
> > > Damon
> > > > > > > > > agrees.
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