[dungeoncrawl] Re: Monster deities
- From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:23:40 -0400
I wonder if some of this would be subconscious? Kind of like in
Ghostbusters with the Stay-Puff Marshmallow Man? :) Seriously though, if
someone said, create a world, even if you thought you didn't want evil in it,
you would almost certainly be thinking of some and would create some. That's
also why they may be a little different from the humanoids we are used to now;
they become warped by the way the characters subconsciously portray the
monsters, instead of the way they actually are.
The other reason they may exist is because of the overpower (we'll call him
Ao, for the sake of expediency). Ao has already declared that the world must
contain evil gods; no doubt he would also demand evil creatures.
Damon Kline wrote:
> Speaking in that vein, would our characters even think to populate the world
> with monsters? I mean, from a world developing standpoint you almost need
> them to make the world interesting to adventure in, but would the characters
> think that way?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnathan Detrick [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:16 PM
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> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: Monster deities
>
> Everything you say is true, but aren't we starting a world from
> scratch? The people may believe they have been around for centuries,
> but in reality, aren't they starting on a brand new world? With that
> being the case, do we have to follow the same rules as most worlds?
>
> jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > I've been giving some thought to that
> > for a while - I'm not sure where I
> > personally fall. I think that most
> > campaign worlds include monster (and
> > demihuman) pantheons to stay consistent
> > with "vanilla" D&D.
> >
> > But then why do different races exist?
> > If they aren't each governed by their
> > own pantheon, how did they come to be?
> > Were elves around before humans, for
> > example? If you follow traditional D&D
> > chronology, Dragons were one of the
> > earliest races - did they worship
> > this "current" pantheon?
> >
> > >
> > > Just some more thinking from John.
> > > I figured that we would just
> > assume that most (if not all) of the
> > > typical monsters are present on the
> > new world (gnolls, orcs, ogres,
> > > etc). I think that sounds good. The
> > first few DMs that use them could
> > > always put a more interesting spin on
> > them, but for a start we assume
> > > they are all there.
> > > So the question becomes, who do
> > they worship? There are tons of
> > > monster deities (like Blibdoolpoolp,
> > Gruumsh, Lloth, etc) and they seem
> > > to be consistent amongst all campaign
> > worlds. Do we want to break
> > > tradition? Is there anyone that
> > would want to be a generic god over all
> > > humanoids? Do you think that some of
> > the evil deities, like Amrikol,
> > > would absorb the evil humanoids into
> > their faith? It could be quite
> > > interesting that way. I'd love to
> > see the way the orcs worship Amrikol,
> > > versus the way the humans might
> > worship him.
> > > What do you think?
> > > I can tell you right now that
> > most of my characters that are gods
> > > feel that there is no reason to have
> > specific deities for all of the
> > > non-human races. We may have some
> > (like Nelik) that get quite a strong
> > > demihuman following, but I'd rather
> > see the other races worship
> > > different deities. And I love the
> > idea of the evil gods using the fact
> > > that there is no dwarven god or orc
> > god or svirfneblin god to sway
> > > potentially neutral races to their
> > ways.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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